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So get your tickets right now before they sell out. 01:21 Calling all chillers. 01:25 Assemble. 01:31 To advertise, email, podcast at thisismaggie.com. Release yourself from order and logic and enter a new place. It's not work. It's not home. Here, no maps have been drawn. No books have been written. Nothing is certain. Everything is possible. Welcome to Podcast and Chill with Maggi. 01:59 I'm assuming this doesn't end well. 02:18 certain things start to click. Like, you know, actually, that is actually nonsense. 02:23 Why is it? This point has to help. Because it's a good point. I don't think I've got a point. 02:28 I've noticed that even on my TikTok, because I'm in the spotlight now, on my TikTok, I'll be agreeing to certain comments and stuff, you know? And then people were like, of course you think like that. I'm like, you know, I don't blame you for not thinking like that because you're 21, you're 19. Now there was a time when I actually thought like that. Now I'm old enough to be like... 02:47 I don't... Cheating is not really a deal breaker. Something like that. And then they feel like... 02:51 Wait, wait. That's what you believe in? 02:54 But I'm just saying, you will grow up and... You will grow up, my nigga. 02:56 Have you been cheated on? 02:57 Exactly. You will know that, guys. 02:59 A couple of times, for sure. No guy can say I've never been cheated on. A couple of times? No, no, no. I mean like you... 03:06 You know it's 100% sure she cheated on you Nah Where she admits it to you as well That yes, I have cheated on you Nah You haven't been through that? 03:14 I have never seen like Solid proof that my honey I just Why would you say a couple of times? That sounds like Solid proof No, no, no A couple of times Something doesn't add up But like you can't You can't put the smoke to the fire You get my point? No, it's different when you know it Yeah, you get my point Have you ever been, Chiron? 03:34 Oh, yeah Oh, and the way I found out was crazy. I've told this story on the pod so many times. A nigga coming up to you and saying, my nigga, my nigga, I got pictures of your girls like my dick. You want to see them? Yo. And you said yes. That's how I'm walking up to the club to go and gig. 03:53 I'm in Botswana this time. I'm in a different country. Did you say yes to seeing the pictures? 03:58 No, I said, hey, shout out, man again. I don't need to do that. 04:03 Shout out for telling me. No problem. 04:08 No, he told me in a way where I could see this guy is desperate for my girl. 04:11 Yes, I was about to say that. I can see he's in loud with my girl now. 04:15 So he's trying to get you out of there. Yeah, he's trying to get me out of my character. 04:19 In most instances, when they do that, it's like it makes your relationship stronger. 04:23 You see, first night... No, no, but instead... It did, though. It did, though. For a minute, right? But I couldn't get over it. Because, you know, the first night, as soon as I got up those steps after talking to this guy, as soon as I got up those steps, I texted her, I said, bro, you better leave the hotel. I'm bringing a party back. I don't want to hear it. You better be gone when I get back because there's going to be a lot of women. 04:45 with me. Where's she gonna go? 04:48 That's her country. 04:49 She's on Bataille. 04:50 Right? She wasn't there when I got back. I found a long letter on the bed when I got there. Whatever. Continue the party. The next day I woke up and I was like, fuck. No, man. I cheated on this girl plenty times and she forgave me every single time. 05:02 You're such a good guy for thinking like that immediately. 05:04 I gotta be a real nigga. This is the next day. 05:06 As soon as I woke up. Same time. Same time in the morning. As soon as I woke up. I was like, no, but this is seven years. 05:13 This is seven years, bro. You see? Seven years and the age, come on. You guys are talking about getting married, kids. Like, you're thinking about all these things. 05:22 Do you have like a timeline on when your woman sucked another person's dick? Timeline in terms of what? Like, when did this happen? 05:29 How long did it happen? 05:32 I had some type of idea because I could also sense her moving differently. Even that night, she didn't come to the club with me. I'm like, why? Why? 05:40 They're like, why are you, why are you forced to stay? You never forced to stay. Yeah. Ah, let's go. It's like, nah, man. I think like, you know, there's some people that might cause trouble tonight. I'm like, there's something I'm prepared for. So when I heard, as I'm walking with my entourage, full entourage, security, everything. It's a nigga down there. I'm like, my head clicks. 06:06 clicks instantly I know what this is I say security stay right here my boys stay right here I don't know who this nigga is but I feel like don't worry I handle this shit went one man and sure enough I was like okay thank you my brother thank you for letting me know it's clean went did my job 06:22 Something like that happened to me this year. I thought you said it's never been verified. 06:28 Oh, someone went to your hand. So you are the cheater, Ish, but we're all cheating there. 06:32 No, no, no, I'm not the cheater. You said her hand went to your hand to tell her. It was a different story, man. 06:39 It was a different scenario, but I don't wish that to anyone. Especially because there's a crowd, you know? When someone hugs you, you know, I know me and Chew are beefing for days, but when Chew enters this room, it's full of like 10 guys. And it's a bunch. And now I know deep down, me and Chew don't like each other. So now it's like, when we are faced to like talk to each other, we have to like, Fight, but fight nice. 07:04 I hate that because now you can... That's aggressiveness. 07:07 No, shut up. Why are you here, bro? You're like... You get my point. 07:11 That's good. That's good. That's how men should talk to each other. That's why men deal with each other like that. Because we know that the other option of that is not going to be good for any of us. So let's control our voices. Let's control our tones. Because from here, there's only other one way. You know what I'm saying? 07:27 So rather that. When have you been in the relationship for like a year now? 07:32 Since when? January. 07:34 January. Like December. Okay, listen, we've been fucking for two years, but then officialized it like... 07:41 Even this, like, you hotspotted the fucking. Yeah. 07:44 Why were you guys seeing other people while you were fucking? Why was it not official? I was. 07:49 I'm sure in the beginning, eh? 07:50 I was. 07:51 But everyone is in the beginning. 07:52 Yeah, but she made it seem like two years and then only dated a year. So the fucking was too long. 07:56 No, after two years, or you've been with him for two years and then it's been ten months. 08:00 So you've been fucking for a year. We've been fucking for two years. Yeah. And then after a year of us fucking this year. 08:06 We are tired. 08:07 So three years of knowing each other. 08:08 Okay, let's change that word to seeing each other. 08:10 Right? You've been seeing each other for two years. Whatever happens within, they're seeing each other. 08:15 Right? Right? Because we're all adults. 08:17 Two years is divided into one year, one year. 08:18 Oh, that's what I'm saying. So seeing each other for a year. 08:20 Please grab your mic closer, Zina. 08:22 Has it started? 08:23 I'm sure it has. Has it started? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is all the smoke, dog. This is all the smoke, dog. Okay, but listen, if you do want to cut it out, we can cut that out. It's up to you, okay? Don't worry about it. 08:31 I was going to spill, so now I'm done. Oh, no. 08:36 She didn't have told her. 08:39 No, but we have to have some level of... Of consent. Of consent. 08:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Hey, people are suing. I didn't know who... 08:49 I wanted to know where your question was going. You said she's been in a relationship for a year and then what? 08:53 Oh, no. I wanted to know, like, have you been in a situation whereby you and your person fought because of other people? 08:59 Not necessarily. We don't really fight about other people. We have our own personal issues that we fight about. Thank you. Which I appreciate. Same here. 09:05 I'm also in a relationship like that. 09:07 It's our issue. We never mention other people. We never have third party problems. 09:11 Okay. I think Zile's question is, has there ever been a time where there has been a third party that has come up? No. Because it just comes up because that person might be a problem. 09:21 No. No. 09:22 There might be a text you see from a certain woman. There might be a woman who's too friendly. 09:25 Our relationships have been so short. Our current relationships. So we haven't gotten there. 09:29 Oh, how long was yours? 09:31 Exactly. Like, it was like a year. Now it's Jan. 09:33 Okay. 09:34 I thought you were single. I said it's been two weeks. I'll relax. 09:37 Oh, two weeks. 09:38 I'm not on the market yet. That's why she said she's not really... I'm still healing. She's still healing. 09:40 Yeah, like healing. Yeah, you must heal my sister. Oh, you must heal. It's very important to heal these days. Yeah. Because, I don't know, I wanted, I didn't see this on the prep, but something touched me today, man. And I want your opinion. There's a guy on Twitter trending for being a deadbeat, man. And him and the woman are speaking on, like, emails, you know. The relationship is cut forward when you're speaking on emails. And you're a dead right now, man. And I want to know, like, how is it being in that situation whereby, how do you feel about situation that is deadbeat? 10:13 I want to know the three of you guys. 10:15 Me, personally, it's tough, man. Because I know so many niggas that go through bullshit just on a chord of the woman being shitty. And I spoke about this on another episode. I feel like so many women judge men on what they can provide. 10:30 Rather on just his character and him willing to be there with as little as he might have. But a lot of women don't even want to hear that. If you can't provide or you can't send this much each month or blah, blah, blah, then you don't You don't deserve to even see your child. You get what I'm saying? 10:46 That's what my mom has actually said to my sister. The child will not remember how much he sent, but she'll remember how many times he came over. 100%. 10:53 And I feel like a lot of men suffer from that and don't either know the right channels to go through because that is illegal. You know, no one can keep you from your child. But I feel like men have been put in a position where you can't complain. You don't want to hear your complaints. You know what I mean? Don't cry to us. 11:12 No, not even that. I'm saying society. We don't hear men's complaints. Like, you know, men have the highest suicidal rates for a reason. You know, when people say, yo, why don't men talk? Why don't men speak? There's a reason because we feel like no one cares. 11:26 Even if I did tell you that, what the fuck are you going to do? You're going to tell me to man up and be a man. 11:32 Are we talking deadbeats in the situation with separated parents? Because there can't be deadbeats in the very same family. You can be a deadbeat to a child. 11:42 While you're still with your partner. 11:44 And they don't see that. They don't see it because you're like, oh, we still love each other. Now we still call each other baby. Now that means you're a present dad. You're still a deadbeat. Even though you're in a relationship with me. 11:53 That's a good point. That's a good point. 11:56 So you mean deadbeat in the sense of like you're not there emotionally, financially. 11:59 Financially, yeah. And also, personally, I think the women that don't want to hear out a man that doesn't want to provide for their child, I think they're fair. 12:08 Yeah, that doesn't want to. 100%. Doesn't want to. Unable and wanting to is not the same. But unable and wanting to. 12:15 What are you doing about it? Yes, you are unable to, but what are you doing about it? 12:19 How are you moving? Yeah, but it's applying to jobs. 12:21 You just don't know. I'm not telling you every time I take out my CV. 12:24 Yeah. All right. And let me tell you, there's so and shout out to the women who do understand, because there's a lot of women that I know that raise their daughters and their daughters tell me that, listen, my dad couldn't do shit for me. My dad couldn't do shit for me. He might have had these problems, but he was always allowed to come and see me. 12:42 when he didn't have a job, when he wasn't providing shit to my schooling, right? Even in my adult phase, having to go to university, him not being able to do it is cool. But I love the fact that this man, whenever I need him, he's around. And I'm thankful to my mom for allowing this man to just come and see your daughter. You know what I'm saying? So I think that's beautiful. Again, it's not that you are not wanting to. Your situation just might be your situation. And my thing is... 13:09 The money doesn't make the man The need for money sometimes makes them deadbeats Because he wanted to come But now he knows that the big mom expects him to come with something Exactly So shout out to the women that don't expect anything Because they have the means They might have all the means And you know Shout out But they still don't look down on their child's father Just because you don't have the means like I do But you're willing to be around Every time I call you for your daughter, there's a problem year around. When my daughter asks for you, I call you and tell you, yo, speak to your daughter. 13:41 She wants to speak to you. And, you know, that in itself is beautiful. I wish everyone was like that. But, you know, people put their own emotions before thinking about this child, because, again, this child is not going to remember this. 13:51 when they're a certain age. 13:53 You know? And at the same time, it might not work in your favor as the mother because when they grow to a certain age, they're going to start asking their own questions directly to the man. And I'm going to say my own thing and say, oh, I tried this and this and this and she just didn't want me around. And then as a child, if you were smart enough, you might be like, damn, mom, that was fucked up. Just because you didn't have... Exactly. 14:16 That's fucked up, mom. You know what I mean? 14:18 You know, it's crazy. You're the reason I hate now. Yeah. 14:21 So I remember I was talking to someone. That's why you find kids from the same parents. Do we have a video for this? 14:30 It's just a random thing. So that's why you find in a family where kids are not the same but they are raised by the same parents and they didn't even break up. Because you find out now, when you were born, your mom just got a promotion. Just got her first bank money. When your brother is born, now your father, things are hard now. Covid now. You get my point. And that's why on the third kid, like you're in a different life. Yeah. You know, so I feel like sometimes parents use kids as weapons. 15:01 And that's 100%. 15:11 And that's what I hate. Like, that's what I hate. Like, let's judge it like this. Let's take everything the same way. Let the person decide, you don't want to take off this kid or get a winch away. Because a lot of people do that. But like, I want to show you, you can't access this person. 15:26 Yeah. And that's illegal, guys. 15:28 And then now I grew up hating my dad, not knowing, but my mom is the reason my dad is lying. 100%. Exactly. 15:33 Exactly. When you're with your dad, you find out your dad didn't even provide for shit or didn't want to see you at all. But he tells you, your mom was stopping me. But that time, the mom was the one trying to call him to come see your daughter. 15:45 That's why you're so old and you still hate your dad. But you see that your dad is always at home. I mean, now you know you have the means as the child, take care of your dad. And you're still mad at him. Not seeing that he actually needs you now the same way that he needed someone when you were a kid. That's why he was not around. 15:59 Because he needed help. 16:02 My opinion in this conversation is so skewed. Because maybe that's why I don't want to have kids. Because fuck that shit. 16:08 Because what, you've been through it as a child? 16:10 Okay, so with my dad... 16:13 I met him when I was eight years old. 16:15 And he... Okay. You met him when you were eight? Yeah. 16:19 Okay. 16:19 I was gone. Oh, okay. 16:21 I was like, hey, man. 16:22 So I met him when I was eight years old. And when he came into my life... 16:27 I'm from like kind of a poor background, right? So when he comes in with a company car, with McDonald's, it was great. I was like, oh, okay, which means my dad is good. 16:36 You're like, oh, finally. 16:37 Yeah, finally. Until I realized that, no, man, that's not it. This man is providing, has this car because of work. But in reality, this man doesn't want to see me. 16:48 This person doesn't want to see me, doesn't want to be there like that. 16:52 I moved in with him with my stepmother at some point. And I just, I was like, I think I was fine back home. Mind you, I'm like from a lesser... Yeah, the house is big, but it's empty. It's big, but I don't like this. Also, like with this different woman who has her own kids, I was like... How many kids were there? 17:12 Oh, my dad is like almost 10, but we stayed... No, in that house specifically. In that house, there was like... 17:18 In that house, oh no. 17:19 No, no, no. In that house, there was like two of us. My stepmother was pregnant at the time. 17:24 But my point is... You know, I judged baby mama number 11, because like, she saw like everything. 17:28 Oh no, by saying 10, I think it's 10. It might be more, it might be... Hey, hey. Hey, man, you never knew it. 17:33 I judged about baby mama. What are you still... What are you thinking? So my... Now I have a question for you. Oh, sorry. Please go on. 17:39 I'm just saying that So my issue was By the time I started understanding things Where I'm like You know what I should stop asking for stuff from this guy I'm in my trick I'm asking for my trick jacket It's not gonna come So let me just get to know the man as you know as my father create a friendship with my father and that's when I was like I've been mad over the years so many times when I could have literally just done this because now we have a good relationship and now I like him I see him more but he couldn't come and see me all the time because he can't do anything like he's just like Whatever. 18:14 He didn't want to. He didn't want to. He had the means and didn't want to. 18:16 No, no, no, no. But that's what she said. This car is just a company car. He doesn't really have the means. He just looks like... Yeah, but then she also said he didn't want to. 18:24 He didn't want to be around. 18:25 That's the... It's both because... 18:33 Has this affected you in your relationships? Has it? Do you have daddy issues? Yeah. 18:52 Sometimes when you argue with your man, do you say, is it because I don't have a dad? Something like that. Is it because my dad didn't love me? 18:58 They could be crying for, you never come and see me. 19:00 And they're like, her dad never came. No, it's nothing like that. 19:05 You're lying. There's no way, bro. There's no way. I feel like every person's upbringing contributes to their relationship. 19:11 It does. In some way. But I think to a certain extent, because you'll grow up to have to think for yourself. I can't be blaming my past for... behaviors today so that's why I don't think I I really have those daddy issues do I I think the issues that I have are from an ex that I'm my dad More than anything. 19:32 Oh, okay. 19:32 Yeah. 19:33 Because I feel like the reason I'm saying your upbringing, like, contributes to your relationship because knowing on how to be romantic, you'll see by your parents, number one. Knowing how to celebrate a win, you'll see by your family, number two. Knowing how to say thank you, you'll see by... Knowing how to be when you're angry. Okay, this is how I approach things. You get me? That's why I feel like your upbringing, like, contributes 100%. I believe that. 19:59 Because even in the relationship, like my parents are divorced. So if you start acting or doing something that my mom has told me that my father did, I'll be like, I'll call future. 20:08 Yeah, because like my parents divorced and my mom says my dad has done exactly what he's doing right now. So I'm like, ah, there's no future. 20:14 What's one thing that you know? 20:16 I can't think of it right now. 20:18 Yeah. 20:20 Okay, like my dad was very abusive. Oh, yeah. So I have been in an abusive relationship. But you know what? I've always had that thing about... You have been in an abusive relationship. I have been in an abusive relationship. 20:31 For how long? 20:32 How long did you stay after the abuse started? 20:33 We dated for five years. But I think they started maybe at the three-year mark. 20:37 Why do you think you stayed for so long? 20:40 No, it got better when he... It got better. 20:43 No, listen. 20:45 Now he doesn't. 20:47 No, no, no. It was like a close proximity relationship. Then he moved, so it was a long distance. So long distance helped because he was not there physically to actually harm me. So you know when you fight in a long distance... 20:58 Okay, but why wasn't the first time enough for you? 21:01 That's where I was going. 21:04 You know, I don't know. It's like when something, let's say she experiences something and then she handles this that way. I'll be like, no, it's just her thing. 21:14 It'll be different for me. It'll be different for me. 21:16 So with my mom, you know how people always say, no, it's just the first time. It will never happen again. And then that's what you think, but it will never happen. It was just her. She was the one who was just attracting all that abuse. 21:27 But why do we do that? When we know better, why don't we do better? I don't know. Because like, you know, for me, I think it's essentially like, you know, regardless of how you were raised, it's your job to grow up. 21:36 Yeah, you choose. 21:37 At some point, at some point in time, I don't know what time that is, but at some point in time, all the onus has to be on you. 21:43 Like you would expect me to leave at the first smack because I saw firsthand how it played out with the others. 21:49 I think you can't do that with matters of the heart. Guys, one thing about matters of the heart, you really can't. But you know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? 22:01 The abuse, the minute it gets physical, it means it started off emotionally. And I think that is the biggest one that I would rather someone leave for than the physical. Because for it to get too physical, it started as emotional abuse. So if you were staying through that because you believed you loved this person, trust me, him hitting me is not going to change anything. Yeah, I've been taking it. 22:23 That's a good point. I've never heard it explained like that, but that makes... 22:26 And the physical part heals faster than the heart. Than the heart, you understand? So you think now this is light. This is light. I know. 22:32 The thing is that he has told me this man, like the type B player. 22:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. His words hurt more. You're thinking about those, but the smack, you're like, after three days, you're like, I'm healing. 22:45 But it's not about the smack. Don't you look at him like, damn, this person has the... 22:50 The ability. I've seen now that he has the ability to put hands on him. Isn't that in itself scary? 22:55 I do not think of it as ability. I thought of it as, oh, what a mistake. And I'm also hoping that it doesn't happen again. That's what you think? Yeah, he did not mean that. He will cry and apologize. He will apologize. But And now I'm older and wiser. No, no, no, no, no, no. No older and wiser. First time you were like, oh, okay, no. You were really mad. I saw where that came from. You were really mad. Sorry for my words. I provoked you. It started like that. But the more you're like, no, man, I don't deserve this. I can say whatever I want. 23:26 And one thing about abusers, they are very great manipulators, right? So trust me, this man will apologize. And will cry. He will cry. My mommy told me my dad will cry at the police station. 23:36 You will believe this. You will cry with her there, like don't go in. 23:39 So if now you are dating someone and your man cries at the police station, don't know. 23:43 I know, tears in the police station don't get to me now. I'm old enough now to know, but I have been through this. How old were you at the time? I was actually very young. It was actually nonsense for me. I had no reason to take that. 23:53 How old were you? 23:55 We started dating when I was 19, so 21. I was 19. 24:00 When you took a meeting. 24:01 Ah. 24:01 Yeah. For me, it was emotional. I accepted it. And then the minute the beating was like, I've said it already on my podcast. My third time when he chokeslammed me. Chokeslam! Girl, I've had that before. 24:16 I was like... 24:18 It gets to a point where they forget that you're a girl now. Like he hits you like one of the homies. Like, hey bro! 24:25 Damn, but hitting you is enough whether he hits you like one of the movies. Me, I will judge you. If you hit your dog, I can't look at you the same way. 24:33 No, we always thought beatings are like on TV where it's like a smack and then you're like... Yeah, it's not like that. 24:40 You guys, they're probably... Chuck Slam. None of my guys even Chuck Slam. 24:45 I've never been Chuck Slam in my life. 24:48 In my life. Yo, no, he fights you like he's fighting at the club. Now you're like, yeah. It's still me, baby. 24:56 You know what he told me? He told me that I love you so much, I've never done this with another girl. And then when we broke up and the exes started saying good riddance, they were like, they're all... And that's why he loved me so much that he couldn't handle his emotions. Because like, he's never loved anybody the way that he loves me. That's why. That's naive. I think this is why we... That's what he... 25:18 I didn't know. Like, I knew what was happening. I just chose not to. Why? 25:22 Why? Like, what was that choice? 25:24 I don't know. And even my friends, my family... 25:27 Your friends and family knew. 25:29 Not that he beats me, but that relationship is toxic. That this relationship is extremely toxic because, yeah, I can't do anything. I'm always with this man. Like, it's our life together. 25:39 19 year old. 25:42 19 year old. I was dating a 26 year old who's unemployed. But what I'm saying is, one thing about people in relationships that are abusive, you will never, ever, ever convince that person to leave until they decide they want to leave. 25:56 Mm-hmm. 25:57 And that's what it was. I know what is happening. I can see that this man is abusive. But you know what? I'm not ready to leave yet. And you know what's the saddest part about that? 26:05 He broke up with me. 26:07 Huh? Now that. You would have still been there. She's right. I was ready to leave. 26:11 He broke up with me. 26:20 He saw that he was getting dangerous. So he left me. 26:22 But don't you feel like, and I'm not saying women are to blame, but don't you feel like now this is why we find ourselves in this killer boy movement? You know, where women are saying, if it's not a girl, I'm aborting. Even thereby, not sorry. We were talking about race. She said the same thing. She's like, it's either a girl or I'm aborting. And now it's a whole fucking movement. 26:44 We have a video for this. 26:46 There's a whole movement like that? There's a whole fucking movement, dog. I think I sent it to the group the other day. 26:50 Do you think the guys that actually off the girls... 26:53 it started somewhere like there was actually abuse you don't think maybe like he just one day and then he just goes all in I amused the thoughts with him you think it was coming I think everybody has control guys everyone has control everyone at the end of the day it's you even if you are slapped by someone else and you're like oh I'm taking my no you guys let me let me be honest with you now 27:12 I'll be honest and I say this all the time. I have a very dark mentality. Okay? Very dark. 27:18 Listen, if I wanted to be a menace to the world, I would be a fucking menace to the world. Because I know that I'm good with my mouth. 27:27 I know things most people don't know. My network is crazy, right? If I wanted to be, and I thought, you know, I've honestly thought, if I had to come to the point where I had to kill someone, because I had to kill someone, could I kill someone? Yes, I could kill someone. I know this about myself, right? And a lot of men know this about themselves, but what makes a good man is making the decision that you don't want to. 27:51 You care what I'm saying? You're not a peaceful man if you don't know how to be violent. 27:57 Because you being violent, having the option and choosing not to, now means you're peaceful. If you can't be violent as a man, you are just... 28:06 You're just, yeah, you just, you know what I mean? But if you can be violent and you know you have all these options and you choose not to, now you're peaceful, man. 28:15 What you're saying is what she was saying in a way, oh no, the reason the abuse went down was because he's abroad. I'm like, wait, wait, now? Is it because he's abroad? He's abroad or is it because he stopped? Because there's a difference. You get my point? 28:29 I think it might have continued emotionally. No, she knows he would have continued. Yeah, she knows. 28:34 Yeah, she knows. 28:36 If he was still around, it would have still went longer. 28:39 Let's watch this video. It's actually very disturbing. I'm not going to lie. There's many slides, no? 28:44 Yeah, please. 28:45 It's a girl or an abortion. 28:48 Come on, man. 28:50 Bluetooth speaker not on or what? 28:55 it's a girl or an abortion damn soon to find out if it's a girl or an abortion hashtag kill all men please play another one just for more context nah before before before no before other direction when a gender reveal happens and I find out it's a boy I'll always be like that's amazing It's amazing. 29:27 But what I'm really thinking in as soon as the blue pops up, I'm always like, oof, what a disappointment. What a miss. When a gender reveal happens. 29:36 So this is what's going on and it's a train and people are, and again, the Not Sorry podcast, They were saying this shit. 29:44 No, that's why they sent Banuel for... Oh, I wanted to say, and by the way, I watched that episode. 29:51 What a great episode. Like, I will definitely say, I'm not sorry. You guys actually cooked with that episode. Seema was struggling a bit. But she tried. Shut up, but... 30:02 Sima was like, she was almost falling asleep. 30:04 I was like, God damn. 30:05 You know what's crazy about that episode? I saw the clips now when I was waiting to come here. There was one that was speaking about body count. One of the funniest clips of, no, it doesn't matter. One, two, three, one, two. I'm like, hey, man. Hey, hey, hey, man. You get my point? Because I feel like a world was going to be, and I always say this, I feel like a world was going to be a better place if our body counts were on our foreheads. 30:27 Fuck no. 30:28 Fuck no. 30:28 Fuck that. Hey man. You know what she said? Fuck that. 30:32 They will never marry us. 30:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no one would marry anyone. 30:41 Yeah. 30:42 No one would marry anyone. No one would marry anyone. I wouldn't. I fucking wouldn't. 30:46 I look at the guy and I'm like, with that forehead, there's no way that you're healthy. With that number there, there's no way that you're healthy. Imagine so. 30:55 No, you don't want to know mine. Trust me. Trust me. 30:58 Imagine I invite you to my wedding and when you get there, mine's like maybe, ah, my attorney and my woman, I love her so much. Hey, hey, hey. 31:07 Yo, we're like, no, she's dating me for the money. You don't mean the topic of the wedding. She's dating me for the money. There's no way she laughs. That number. 31:14 Yeah, no, no, no. Let me go shoot the podcast and all the smoke. You left your forehead. It was terrible. You come back instead. 31:21 All right, guys. Oh, shit. Now I'm like, hey, man. 31:25 Every weekend I'm seeing you. Hey, man. What's going on? Jet, five more. What's going on? A week, dog. What's happening? 31:30 But this is not everyone who blame the system. They're like, their numbering is wrong. What's the system? You're the government. 31:35 You know, you know. You know. 31:39 You know. It never works. It never works. The net works. You come back home, you say, no, I have a headache. You keep on doing this every time I approach you. Because you don't want me to see that. It'll be so funny, though. 31:55 Yeah, no, but it definitely matters. 31:57 It definitely matters. You know, I'll start wearing wife material. So you're thinking it matters. Yeah, it matters. 32:04 It definitely matters. 32:05 But it don't matter. Yes, it does matter. Okay, wait. Before we go into that one, I want to... Let's talk about the... Okay, let's finish. Yeah, let's finish that one first. Let's finish that one. 32:11 You see, guys, this is a panel of podcasters. You understand? They know that actually we have these. You know? And a shout out, ladies, for coming. Actually, welcome to another episode of All the Fucking Smoke. Let's start there. Zile is standing in. Please, my guy, do your intro. 32:28 And today we are here at All The Smoke. 32:32 Yeah. 32:32 And my smoke goes to Cruz Africa. We are coming for you. At the end. At the end. At the end. You're coming for him today. Yeah. 32:39 You know myself. Very simple. I'm going to take a shot. You know how I do. Ladies, for those that don't know who you are, please introduce his house. 32:46 Oh guys, I don't have an intro. That's a real nigga right there. 32:51 That's a real nigga right there. That's a real nigga right there. I'm going to go home and practice. 33:02 I still don't understand why you guys do, all of you guys have like... What is going on? 33:09 What's going on? Say your intro thing. 33:14 You know what Ville said? Imagine him getting older when his kids are saying his intro. 33:21 That's my biggest fear. Imagine, I'm telling you, they're calling me. Every time I call my daughter, I'm like, yo, they're telling me at school. I'm like, what? 33:34 My sister. That's my biggest fear. 33:36 Yeah, no. For those that don't hear, please. 33:39 Hey, guys. It is your girl, probably breaks the cape up a little bit. 33:41 Yeah, guys, before we continue, I need to do something. If you're an Amapiano producer and want to make extra cash, make sure you upload your unreleased tracks on SyncStudioMusic.com. If you're a content creator looking for royalty-free Amapiana music, head to SyncStudio.com to avoid any strikes on your video. SyncStudioMusic.com. Royalty-free Amapiana music at your fingertips. You know what? I made sure today was just a couch full of podcasters. 34:13 I DM'd you a while ago. How long was it? How long was it? Like a month? 34:16 A long time ago. A month or two months? Yeah, maybe a month. A month? 34:19 Right? 34:20 Well, you're not shocked at my response now. 34:22 What do you mean? 34:23 No, like the fact that now I'm only responding now. 34:25 Why did you only respond now? 34:26 I saw it long time ago, but I was like, now I don't cheat. 34:33 No, Kanye, what was my DM? When you saw the first line, what was my line? 34:37 Yes, no, his line was, do I have a signed contract or something? Symbol. 34:43 I went straight to business. You're not the problem. Oh, she's the problem. She's the problem. 34:49 You saw it as, okay, this is a business. 34:51 And then I did the same with Pabby. Actually, I met Pabby for the first time at my propaganda show like two weeks back. And then I said, yo, and then I DMed you after that. And I said, actually, I would love to have you on the show. You know what I mean? So thank you guys. 35:07 Because Spista was saying it to me yesterday, like, oh, cross-pollination, cross-pollination. As I'm moving from a podcast to another. Is it like an issue like that? No, it's a good thing. 35:15 No, it's good for the industry. Yeah, it's amazing. I think it's amazing. 35:20 Yeah, because I've seen Yanda do it and I like it. But now you can't really count Yanda's as really moving around because she's still in the same network. No, it's still in the same network. Yeah. 35:27 But I always like it Like the one here Penuel Yeah that was dope Like all the gents need someone to Yeah Why not have podcasters actually switch around And then speak to each other Yeah Some of them won't see eye to eye But hey man But that's the whole reason why you want to do it So you can get all these opposing views Because that makes great content You know what I mean But I mean listen People that can't, I, because I spoke to, I met Scots for the first time at the baddies house, Oma's pool party. I saw you there, but we didn't speak, right? But I saw you were there, right? 35:58 And I asked Scots the same thing. I said, Scots, yo, what's up? Because he approached me, he's like, yo, when you come to the show? And I'm like, nigga, when are you coming to the show? Because I told my producer to hit you guys up a long time ago. I know she has, I know he has, you know? But there's always, even the new gen boys. You know? Every time I say like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, nigga, shut the fuck up. I know, you say this all the time, but when my producers reach out to you, silence. 36:21 Who ideally would you want to like see from the new jam? 36:25 All of them. I think I've spoken to everyone. Nah, I've spoken to everyone. Literally, I've spoken to everyone. 100%. 36:30 So you want them together or like separately? 36:32 I don't give a shit. It doesn't matter. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't matter. We shouldn't get together all seven of us. Yeah, let's go. 36:38 He showed the seven of you. 36:40 Yeah. Girl culture and new gen. How was the conversation flowing? Do you guys not like... That's why a lot of... It was kind of a little bit messy. Yeah. I think it was a good episode. I'm very scared of the things that I said. But you know what? Yeah. Come on. 36:53 Don't worry. 36:53 Why? 36:54 Why what? 36:55 Why are you scared? Because I'm so... Are you scared because of your boyfriend? Or are you scared because of just society? 37:00 No, not necessarily even society. I don't really care that much when it comes to that. But I give out the cancer, guys. I just entered. Oh, guys. 37:06 But you're not going to... 37:08 I just entered this game. So I don't want to be... You know? 37:11 Zila, what's up? What's up? 37:12 No, no, no. 37:13 I want good jobs, good jobs. Zila, sit back instantly. He was like... And we spoke about this. We spoke about this off camera. All right. All right. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Guys, welcome to all the smoke. That's how we doing it. Yeah. 37:26 Yeah. 37:26 Yeah. 37:27 Yeah. 37:30 Yeah. Let's go. 37:32 Woo. What were you talking about this night? Oh, she doesn't want to get canceled. No, you can't be canceled if you don't want to be canceled. I'll tell you that right now. 37:39 My thing is, it's not even necessarily about being canceled per se. 37:42 It's more about not working with brands because I'm not here for a fun time only. So I won't be out here just spewing nonsense, spewing nonsense because I don't care. I actually want to be doing this, spending my money to go everywhere and everywhere to get money back. And if I can't work with brands and stuff, why should I? 38:00 I hear you, but I think depending... I think you're smart enough to know when it turns into, like, hate speech, right? And it turns into something insensitive, like what Saul and Mac went through when they joked about the killings, right? That's insensitive. You know what I mean? On a just societal level, right? It's insensitive. So I would get it if a brand doesn't want to align themselves with you because you're insensitive to those kind of issues, right? But, like I just said now... Sometimes I sit down and I'm like, yo, I can be a really evil guy if I wanted to. 38:32 I would look twice at you if as a brand you didn't want to work with me because of that. Because I didn't say anything towards any certain group, race, gender. 38:42 Or anyone. 38:43 Or anyone. I spoke about myself and I spoke about some real shit that most people won't ever admit, you know. 38:49 So I think you're smart enough to know when it turns into a problem. 38:53 Until I've... 38:54 Next. 38:55 Ah, then it's chai. Nah. Are you still nervous about tomorrow's, I mean, yesterday's thing, after hearing what he said? Like I said, guys, open up the mic. 39:04 My mouth. You are like me. 39:06 Yeah. 39:07 I'm the opposite of that. Once I do this, I sleep. 39:10 I save myself. Guys, I'm still here. I'm still glued to the topic. 39:17 Oh, I did want to say, you guys need to petition to change your fucking set, dog. Like, your set is like, you're 16 years old, dog. Like, what the fuck? And the thing is, I was watching an episode the other day and Nikwita said it. She's like, what the fuck is this? And I'm like, yeah, actually, you guys look like you're in a primary school class. Yeah, what's going on? You need to tell your producers, dog. 39:40 Nah, yeah, yeah. 39:41 You guys need to change your set, dog. 39:43 No, no, no. For real. I'm telling you, I'm telling you. Things about spreading humours, and I think we've said this outside already. 39:49 For real, dog. 39:49 We are growing, you know? And when we started, we started as bubbly, bubbly. Yeah, that's fun. Cool cares. That made sense. 39:56 The lockers, the stickers on the... It made sense when you got fired. Yeah, for sure. High school musical. But now... 40:01 But now... Because if I tell you the things that I'm going through right now, they don't align with that color. Nah, they don't. You get my point. And even my age, even my age, I grew on paper, I'm 21, but in real life, in real life, I'm 27. Unofficially, yeah. In real life, I'm 27. You get my point. 40:22 Actually, when I found that out, I was like... 40:24 Yes, that's my point And I don't blame you Because every Plus, plus I'm waiting on my internet You get my point Now it's like, hey man I get you And plus the theme are also there You get my point So Yeah But like she said Like She looks at you like But like you said You're only doing that Because on paper You are 21 Why? 40:45 Because your demographic Is a certain audience Yeah So you can't just Turn that off And now find a new demographic But the truth is The people that were 18 to 21 Have grown with you Yeah All these years Like now they are older And they would have stayed with you Yeah If you had continued Just talking about your real life shit Not Focusing on the demographic But focusing on who you are Where you are Currently So so so When is this 41:10 Dropping on Friday. 41:10 Friday, 8 p.m., yeah. 41:11 So, on Sunday, you must just check my Instagram, how I move. You will see, I'm in a different life. 41:20 I'm a different person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in a different state of life. Like, I would have wanted to show you guys, you get my point. Maybe, you guys must get a sneak peek. Yeah, yeah, come on. No, fuck this. I want to show you, but the problem is, you see, just don't say, you see. Let me show you. 41:38 Nakwida also looks so awkward on that show. 41:41 Really? No, Nakwida can't be on Spread Humours on Sunday, on Monday. She's drinking 1942. 41:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, for real. No one, no one. 41:48 That's so nice. 41:49 You get my point. 41:50 I didn't expect that. 41:51 Oh, it finally happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah, nice. You get my point. Yeah, no, congratulations. Oh, my God, yay. Yes, sir. No, no. I knew for a while. You said this a while ago. A while ago, yeah. 42:02 Yeah, you said this a while ago. So you get my point, but... 42:05 It's so cute. Yo, no, he didn't say it in public. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 42:08 Yeah, so my set is like, when we started, we started, even yonder, bro. Nakwida can post, like, champagne, 1942. She's going to Dandode. No one who's 18. Guys, listen. 42:18 Nakwida comes from bombs and banter or open chats over here, right? To come here. 42:24 Huh? 42:25 What does that mean? From a set of drama. They add drama. 42:30 Buckets on the table. 42:33 To the lockers and stickers. Ah, gents. Respect that. It doesn't make sense. No, but she's a different person now. No, but you're lying to us now. Because we know that that's not real. We know it's not real. Like you said, your life is different now, bro. It's different. You are going through something that six years ago, wasn't the topic you were like nah nah not right but you're there now right why would you for me it would be inauthentic if you did not live in the moment and share it with your people on your podcast you know what i mean talk about those issues because that's where the people that started with you that's where they are realistically yeah exactly yeah with what you've shown us now you need to be on the podcast there with the pastors yeah in the white You see, I know you outside of your podcast to be so different than you on that podcast. 43:36 I know you to be so... I like you on the show, though. No, but I like you on the show. Which one? 43:39 You like him, and you're always going to like him. 43:47 But don't you feel like there's a level that can unlock beyond that set? 43:51 You're going to make me look at it in a different way now. I've never thought... Don't think about it that way. When he started how many years ago? You were like five, four... Five years ago. 43:59 He's not the same age, right? They were talking about different things. Look at the fucking set. 44:04 Look at that shit. What is that? Bananas. Lollipops. No, no, no, no, no, no. 44:14 But your topics are still aligned to that. Honestly, you guys talk about politics. 44:19 They should. You're at that age now. Your people are at that age. 44:22 But yeah, your background doesn't say politics. 44:25 It says... Exactly. 44:26 That's why it's inauthentic. 44:28 Speaking about... Someone texted me... They're speaking about the 19-year-old. Guys, when you say her age, it gets worse. Yeah, it gets worse. She's 19, right? 44:35 Oh my gosh. 44:37 Guys, when did it become normal? 44:49 To even like Talk about it The way she's talking about it Then I saw her on Ghost Loobies stream Where they brought her to come and Like go deeper into what she was saying And she did She's like yeah Fuck this She's like my problem was that girl said I was doing it She must say weee 45:08 The problem is not you. No, the problem is not me. And you know what's crazy? 45:14 And this aligns to the videos that you guys showed us. So like imagine now you are saying, okay, I am afraid to have a daughter because I'm afraid one day my daughter is going to go on a live and say, I'm sailing. And if men were doing the same thing of saying, imagine America's gender reveal and it pops out like what word, because you're afraid of that. It was going to be a different chat. You get my point? I agree. Women are saying, no, we don't want, like, if America's gender reveal, if it's blue, I'm bummed. You get my point? Because of certain reasons, for sure. But later on, I wouldn't want my daughter to go on and say... 45:48 Imagine. That's why people with the comments that say, like, are you not thinking of those people? 45:54 I feel different about that. Not necessarily Batswadi. I wouldn't say Batswadi. Guys, a parent can only play a role. That's what I was going to say. Like, there's so much that a parent can do. 100%. 46:03 I'm cold and calculated like that. My mom said, I'm leaving you in jail, Ninka. Find yourself out. That's how I was raised, doctor. When I called her She said Nigga The same way you got In that motherfucker You will see yourself Out dog And that's how I'm gonna raise my kids as well Dog I can't help it She's 19 Doing whatever the fuck She wants to do There's only so much Me as a parent I can forcibly Force my child to do I did my best But how will you feel now As the mother I feel shitty I will It doesn't take it away Yes you are But now spiritually It's me and God God Hey She is your child As well She is your child I'm your child I'm your child I'm your child Yeah Okay can I just ask something then Being Babalo in that situation You see something trending And this person speaking about me What was she supposed to do Ideally She's a real nigga for saying what she said. 47:01 Bro, let's start there. 47:02 Guys, guys. But wow, so sad. It's so sad that that's the reality. What do you mean? You guys are getting it. Like, I remember when SNA started. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The best of the situation. Yeah. So my chat is like, The problem started for her, see? And now, she's just freestyling it. 47:28 I love her so much. I can even, let's call her actual. Yeah, yeah, you can do it. 47:31 Fuck. 47:32 You can do it. 47:33 She's so different than this show, man. Let's call her. 47:37 Even Yanda was different. 47:38 He's never made a call, though. Yeah, I know, he's not. 47:40 Yanda even was here, heels off. Huh? 47:47 I love that episode. With Munchaus. It was chaotic. It was so chaotic. Munchaus made me wish I smoked weed. I'm laughing so much. I need something more. Because she's sitting here. 48:00 I'm like, oh, I love her. 48:04 Yo, that's my favorite episode to date, but it's also the most chaotic episode to date. But I love it because I am chaotic. I love chaos. 48:11 You didn't get a word in, but when you got something and you were like, you made sure. Like, you made sure you said everything. Because Moon was like, yo. 48:18 Yeah, in the beginning, I was like, ah, ah. By the end, I was like, Moon, nigga. She was not listening to you. She was not listening to you. Like, nobody. And then she'll speak. 48:25 And then she's like, no, I'm just thinking out loud. 48:29 I'm talking to myself. At the end, you would hear Moon mumbling in the back. 48:32 I was like, okay. 48:33 I'm just talking to myself. You know what I was thinking when I was watching it? I'm like, I will lie. I would have kept quiet. I would have just gave up on the conversation. I would have taken off my heels too. 48:50 You guys will tell me when you're done. That was probably her first thing. 48:53 Her first podcast. No, she has a podcast herself. No, no, no. Girl, like being on the network. No, I think she's been to Mac. Yeah, she's been to make sure. 49:01 You know, what was funny was, so Yanda's trying to speak and then Tilo interjects. No, let her finish. Don't do that. Let her finish. And then Yanda tries to finish. Yanda tries to finish. And then... It's like, yo, hold on. 49:17 And then we're known as Captain Sam Kwas. 49:21 Before you finish your sentence? 49:25 I loved her. 49:26 No, Mucha is amazing. I loved it. When I saw the promo. 49:29 I swear, I wish I was a smoker. Like, when I watched it, I was like, I want to smoke. 49:34 Smoker? Who, Mucha? Mucha was smoking, dog. We had to cut some shit out. We had to stop the show three times, dog. 49:41 Three times that. There's a line that she made and I'm like, I don't know if you are raping or you are swearing at someone. But imagine, I can't even repeat it. No, repeat it. You want all the smokes. Guys, how do you even think of this? I don't know, my clint is bigger than your dick when you think. 49:59 I was like... No, no, no. I didn't see this. This is AI. So fast. She thinks so fast. She thinks so fast. She thinks so fast. No, I was like, what? How did you? What? 50:08 Moon child. I'm like, no, no, no. Can you please go to moon woman now? You can't be moon child. 50:14 You know when people say things like that, now you just want to see them naked because you're like, what are you talking about? Zokanyo. Zokanyo is a free. Zokanyo is a free. 50:23 Zokanyo is a free. I wanted to like, understand. 50:26 Like, what? 50:31 Where did you get that line? You were like, what style is that one? Yeah, what is that line? I'm like, in that situation, because my comebacks are so whack, I don't have comebacks for days. She would have finished me. Like, I would have been tanful. 50:43 Ew, no, Munchad is amazing. I'm not going to lie. 50:46 No, I loved her. 50:46 I'm not going to lie. I loved her. You know, you're from Kasa as well, man? She's Kasa as well. 50:51 Have you slept with a guy before? 50:52 Sorry? 50:53 Have you slept with a guy before? 50:54 Slapped a guy? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I've only slapped the one that slapped you. 50:59 Wait, what does that mean? 51:00 So it was... Damn. Not like that. I mean the... Sorry, just reaction. Only that abusive relationship. So because he opened up that door, it was okay for me to... For you to do it back. 51:15 Okay, now you're telling us the rest of the story. They were going bend for bend. Yeah. 51:21 You think you can do that? I'll show you. Funny enough. You were the same. I slept. You were the same. No, I don't get slept back or slept first. I can even initiate it. You can come after me, it's fine. But... Nah, you see? I don't slept. I'm not violent. Even with my words. 51:40 You don't slept? I don't swear. I'm not violent. I don't have that. I don't have that in me. I'm not violent, but... Even with my words, I don't have it. Yeah, even with my words, man. I don't even like... 51:50 Unless you're a nigger. Unless you're a nigger. Sure. But the woman I'm dealing with or women that I'm dealing with, never. 52:00 Are we talking about... Are we talking about... Because there's a difference between... And just having vulgar language, right? Yeah, yeah. 52:12 There's a difference. 52:13 Personally, I never... She's talking about the former. 52:16 Okay. I would never. I would never, like, just swear at somebody. But... 52:21 I have a vulgar mouth You know my teacher, she said I have a mouth like a truck driver But I get it from my mom My mom was a minister and a bishop, so 52:37 Yeah, my mom loves to take. 52:39 It's actually very shocking. My mom loves to take. 52:45 My mom's a suitable woman. So, you know, suitable women. Oh, my days. 52:48 And then, it gets too much sometimes. 52:51 It gets too much. It hits you. It's like... 52:55 Yeah, it's so, it's like... It's like, relax, dog. There are certain people, like, if they say to you, like, I know, okay, he doesn't, he doesn't mean this. Like, when I'm talking, like, you say, if you are talking to me, like, nah, fuck this shit, bro, like, what do you mean? Yeah, fuck you, man. Yeah, fuck you, man. Yeah, but if someone, like, you say fuck, I'm like, wait... 53:15 Hold on, nigga. 53:17 Hey, you get my point. So there are certain people, if they say certain things, like, oh, okay, this one is not that angry. You get my point. But I got it from my friends. My friends used to, yo. 53:30 Those guys, even when they compliment, yo. 53:32 And this is from a young age? 53:33 No, no, no, no. No, at home, if you said a swear word, my granny would... Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. What about now? 53:41 Now I just avoid. I remember the first time, I still remember the first time my mom had me swear. It was probably like first year. She was like, wait, what? Did you just say that? And when the pod happened, it became the fact that we don't speak about it. 53:56 But your mom wasn't like a vulgar person. 53:59 At home, we are not at all. We are at all. Okay, I see that. 54:02 That's why it's a shock. That's why it's a shock. 54:04 If my granny saw his neck, we laughed. 54:07 What is the word that she said, as someone who doesn't sway? 54:09 Silly. As someone who doesn't sway, she said, okay. 54:21 And I'm sure it sounds so innocent. 54:22 Me and my brother, we did a bet on who's gonna switch off the main switch because the main switch was exposed at home. 54:28 So we're like, let's do a bet here. 54:44 So we wanted to switch the main seats off while we were all chilling. Like at home, they're watching TV. We are playing. You know when we are playing with drugs. Let's see who can switch it off. Then we did a bet. I think I was the one who lost. And I went, he carried me. Went to the main seat, just switch it off. At night! 55:01 It's a terrible moment! 55:03 So now the funny part about that. She says this. She swears and tries to hide the badge. 55:11 I don't hear this. 55:13 The bedroom. Oh shit. 55:24 Me personally, when we started swaying, when I started swaying, when I was 8, 17, I started swaying. I was like, mom. 55:32 You even know when you started. 55:34 Yeah, maybe like 16, 17. 55:35 Because you said, when I grow up, I want to sway. Like, yeah, yeah. No, I didn't even say it. What do you want to do when you grow up? I want to sway. Yo, my mom swore all the time, so I said, yeah. No, but she said for 10. No, it went beyond that. My mom was... 55:49 My mom was a rough, rough, rough. My dad now. My dad, I've never heard of him. 55:55 Yeah, men don't swear. Men don't swear like that. 55:57 I swear, but I learned this. My mom was a very free home. You can say what you want to say in terms of express yourself. We used to have family meetings, you know? 56:07 Like, yo, it's the end of the year? 56:10 Let's talk. We want to understand. Like, yo, tell us your plans, you know what I mean? Anything you're feeling, anything you didn't like. That's how I went to therapy for the first time. 56:18 I can't wait to swear next month. It was like that. It was like, I can't wait to. 56:22 When I turned 11, I had issues with my dad. I thought my dad hated me, you know? Yeah. When I reached 12, 13, I thought my dad hated me. And then my mom was like, okay, you think your dad hates you? Do you want to go to therapy? Do you want to talk to someone about this? 56:35 I was like, yeah. You were so privileged. I've never heard of therapy until I started going to school and learning what therapy was. 56:41 I was privileged in the sense that my parents were My parents were scholars. They came from the worst of the fucking worst. But their mission in life was education, education, education, education. And the more they became educated, they were open to these things. 100%. 56:59 Because with us, you just talk to another elder. 57:02 You know, just work this out. But that's a form of therapy. It's just that they're not a... 57:08 Professional Because a therapist is not really there But nobody sends you to go talk to an elder You just feel that You know what I'm closer to my aunt It's time to go and have this conversation Let me tell my aunt what my mom is doing Or something like that Yeah I mean it's a form of therapy I'm very expressive I've always If I have a problem with you I'll tell you now You say yeah So does that help like you For you to not need therapy and stuff 57:26 Yeah. I think it does. It really does. Like, I don't bottle things up because... I do. You see? That's why I feel like I will never need therapy as long as I'm close. Yeah. 57:36 Like, they affect me to a point whereby I started, like, realizing, oh, no, no, no, no. 57:43 Like, more and more, I have a serious problem. I think when... Like, what? 57:46 Give us an example without giving us too much. 57:48 Okay. No, no, no. I'm going to give you too much. For example, like... But you don't mind, Shay. Yeah, yeah. We're all on the smoke, like you said. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I remember, like, my dad with, like, fleshes. You get my point. So, like, I don't remember him, like... Yeah, I think, Lena, at the same time, when you... When I was eight, my dad used to come, but he was never there. Like, you get my point. And when I came to uni, and people used to have their dads when they were struggling with small things, like, oh, no, here I dress. They want to... Okay, shorts. 58:17 Mm-hmm. 58:17 Okay, let's take a shot. 58:19 Sorry, but keep telling your story, man. I'll pass you a story. Keep talking, I'll pass you one. What are you having? Shall I just punch alone? 58:25 With the wine bottle. 58:27 With the wine bottle? 58:30 I've never seen that before. No, that's mine. Hold that thought. Yeah, okay. 58:39 So my dad was like, I just remember him with, like, fleshes. So when I came to you... Celia has the biggest shot here. 58:48 No, but... Yo, yo, yo, yo. 58:51 How do you do that? Luckily, I left my car. 58:58 Luckily, I do that. Gotta move safe. That's how you have to move, eh? 59:02 Your dad is, like, fleshes. Your dad is deja vu. 59:07 Yeah, all the smoke, guys. Yes, thank you for coming. Let's go. 59:14 You think you've seen him somewhere, you're not sure. Yeah, go on. 59:22 Yeah, you got to take a pause there. 59:25 Yeah, no, you have to think about it. That's why Munchal was like that. Relax. 59:29 She wasn't drinking, she was drinking water. 59:31 Yeah. 59:32 She was drinking water. 59:34 She was drinking water? Yes. So energy light, okay? 59:38 Like I said, we had to stop the show like three times. So we would maybe go outside and hit a bit of that. 59:45 That was a long day. That was a long day. I'm interested in your dad. Why is it like... Not like that. Relax. 59:55 His dad is just a flash. Milano, please. So like I said, so when I came to uni, that's when I realized... No, it doesn't matter. 60:05 Give me the red one. 60:06 Yeah, yeah. So that's when I realized, oh shit, Konje, at high school, cause we was like, we were always at school. You don't see people's dads, you just see them going home, taking taxis. But in uni, when people were full of groceries, when they were still Zulari, You get my point? They are still zoolaring like you. How am I going to go home and stuff like that. Then when things were getting like a bit tough because I remember I struggled with getting NS first. You get my point? And now my mom and my daughter So I'm like, yo, if my dad was here, even if we were struggling, in my head, I was like, even if we were struggling, I was going to, like, talk to him. 60:45 I'm like, as a man, how do I handle this? This is difficult and stuff like that. You get my point. So for me, that hit me more. I don't think I've ever said it on express humours, but, like, for me, that affected me, like, in the... 60:59 In a way whereby I didn't even know it was a problem. You get my point? Until I grew up and I realized, oh, shit. I think I have a problem with it. Until I had to reconcile now when I was growing up. 61:11 Is your dad still alive? 61:12 No, no, no. Passed on when I was eight. 61:14 Oh, no, no. Oh, condolences. 61:16 That's crazy. 61:17 Those are very... Yeah, but you see how... Yes, still to this day. 61:24 Yeah, because you will never, ever, ever... And people don't realise that it goes deep. You don't forget. You don't forget. The feeling. You don't forget that. easy for you to remember, oh shit, oh my, and you're struggling with a simple thing. I don't know, my dad will pick me up. I'll see it. And you're like, oh, my mom will pick me up. And you realize, your mom is like, hey, if your dad was there, you're going to be like, dear son, dear son. Now I used to, you get my point. Now you see it from a man's side. Okay, you get my point. That's why I became, I think I was, I became, From my family, I was the first person to become independent at my age. 61:59 And that's something that people don't know. Like, everything was like, pop, pop. Because I didn't have a choice. 62:04 Yeah. 62:05 You were your own death. 62:06 I mean, Zila, I want to commend you because whether you want to realize it or not, you had the capacity to at least be able to look in the mirror and say, yo, these are the problems. These are the things that I'm feeling. And maybe this is where those problems come from. 62:21 Yeah. 62:22 I feel like a lot of people don't have that ability. No, no, it's not easy, by the way. It's not easy. No, it's never going to be easy. 62:26 No, they do, but they don't like sharing. You know, the sharing is the hardest part because you do have those thoughts. You do know what I like. You do know what I wish I would have done better. I don't even think it's mostly about sharing. I don't think it's the hardest part. Yeah, I don't think it's the hardest part. 62:40 Admitting or I have a problem. 62:42 I mean, he was eight. 62:47 And I'll also acknowledge it. You know, as much as you can have certain issues, so many people have mustered just ignoring something, just moving. So many people have mustered. That's why it's called bottling up, whereby the minute you burst, everything is just coming back. Everything is just coming back. Like, I would never cry, like, because I'll cry anytime I want to. 63:08 Now when you're crying, and you're like, when did the person pass in, like, eight? You're like, ah, eight hair. 63:13 He didn't eat with that one hour later. 63:18 But my chat is like, you know, I don't think people are like, you still bottle things. You still bottle things. And also it's because you feel like if I say this, now I'm exposing myself. Because you know how deep this is? I've never said that. I'm only saying it here. He's proving our point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're in high school. Yeah, my point. 63:42 You know, it's crazy. I WhatsAppped Yanda after when the episode aired. Let me be, let me actually, let me actually, yo, just so you know, just so you know, I'm going to say verbatim, verbatim. I said, Yanda, I said, yo, I said, yo, Yanda, great episode. She's like, yo, heart. I said, nah, go teach your host. 64:04 She's like, yo, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, yo, she's like, yo, crying face, crying face, why are they catching smoke? 64:13 I'm like, yo, I'm just saying, I'm like, yo, I'm just saying, you graduated, you can go teach. 64:23 Yeah, no for real. If I go to spreading humors, I'm sure when I get there, I'm like, a man should provide. A man should provide. 64:33 All this shit, 15k a date bullshit. 15k a date bullshit. You never press yonder hard enough. 64:39 No, you know, Why is someone saying like 10k minimum and you guys are not saying anything? Actually, what are you talking about? You know, how is Yanda saying, no, to spend on a date, you have to spend 10k minimum. And you guys are leaving, guys. Now you're leaving. 64:53 What do you mean? 64:55 So they must teach me on tour. But now guys, let me tell you. Let me tell you. No, no, no, no. Let me let my smoke today. Cruz Africa, I love you. My smoke goes to say, fuck this shit. Ha, ha, ha, ha. 65:10 You know I can handle that. You know what I like about Dilek? I can handle that. Dilek, every time the conversations get to a point, his body goes nap. He goes like this. Yeah, he goes like... 65:19 I don't believe the shit. 65:21 He goes like that. My chat is like, you guys don't realize. 65:26 An episode is one hour taking a minute. I'm the only nigga there. One, one, one for sure. I have my break mode and I have my own times. 65:35 I'm gonna pay 15k for a date When she said 15k You looked at your account You're like I'm not going to a date with her But what I'm saying is You didn't press her You didn't tell her She sounds dumb You didn't You didn't say You didn't say You joked I mean you guys had jokes and shit But you didn't really press the issue that Yo Yanda listen Most guys are not in the position to do that Number one Number two Are you trying to teach your daughter the same thing? Number three, is that what really matters? Number four, does that not push a narrative that 10 years down the line is going to be detrimental to society on a whole? 66:10 But that's the same thing. There's so many. That's how I feel. I feel exactly the same way. 66:16 There's so many things. You see, it goes numb. Like nothing. 66:19 Bro, that's nothing. There's a lot of things that I was supposed to say, but I'm like, you know what? 66:24 yeah you see it's those colours there the lockers the lollipops the lollipops I felt exactly the same way about your episode with Yanda and Moonchild when you guys were talking to Yanda speaking about how a man should provide and then you asking Yanda a nipple baby I was pissed I was like what the fuck Of course, she's gonna be like, she can choose, right? So if I sat here, coming from a poor background and I choose that, I really don't want to marry a poor man, I want to marry a rich man. Like, I'd be demonized for that. But guess what? 66:55 She doesn't have to. So you guys didn't argue. 66:57 No, I don't think you'd be demonized, right? Because if you said to me, listen, I would have asked you the same question, right? Because Yanda said she had her certain reasons. If you gave me your reasons and your reasons being, listen, I come from a poor background. I want better for myself. I would have said shop. Just like I said to Yanda. I said shop to Yanda. Then I said, okay, to what point though? I'm going to ask you the same question, probably. 67:18 If you have baby daddy number one, because you have this idea that I come from a poor background, my kids must have better than me. Sure. No problem with that. Right? My question to Yanda was baby daddy number one. 67:29 You realize, oh shit, he's got all the money in the world, but he's a fucking shit nigga. Doesn't treat me nice, he's abusive. Sure, you leave him. Baby daddy number two. He's got the money, he's got the... But still, same situation. It's a bit... At what point do you say, you know what? 67:45 I've done what I can do as Pibi. I've got a job. I'm hustling. I will provide for my kids where I can. But my happiness is actually more important than the man based on his income or what he can do for me. The question still would have applied. 68:03 Which is at what point do you say, fuck all that. I actually just want real love in a real situation. 68:08 And I agree. I'm asking. Unfortunately, unfortunately, with life. 68:14 That's a sad question. Does it feel like, that's sad. 68:18 You know, that's why I look at you. 68:20 And no one is like, no one is like, yes, sir. 68:25 It's sad, that's sad. 68:27 And that's my reply right now. That's it. That's my reply right now. Unfortunately, there are certain things that make you happy that are very, very compulsory, right? But then when it comes to the economy that we live in, everything that we live in around right now, yes, I'm in love with Zele. Zele. 68:44 Say it again. Keep us. Keep us. Do you think this? Do you think this? 68:51 For real. Yeah, you're in love with Zile. 68:54 Yes, I'm in love with Zile. But unfortunately, to understand that, as much as I'm in love with Zile and that makes me happy, beyond that, how I'm leaving, everything, like, is going to affect it. It's going to affect that happiness. So it's half-half. It's like, now, okay, what do I go for? Right? And then, I have the situation whereby Tseko is a rich man. 69:11 Mm. 69:12 And he can't give me all the love that's necessary for... That you would love, like your fairytale love. No, the one that Zia is giving me. But I would rather go with Tseho, who's going to do that. And then every other thing, the happiness from the other side, I can still get it. Because, guys... So Yesee, you're going to cheat on me anyway. No, no, no, I didn't say that. 69:29 So Yesee, you're going to cheat on me anyway. 69:31 You're the bank. Yeah, I'm the bank, but... No, I'm also hearing half and half. Yeah, you said half and half. Wait, wait, I'm not saying that. 69:38 I am not saying that. 69:40 I'm saying, then I get married to you. But the happiness that I'm talking about is everything that adds on, not relationshipically, right? Everything else. Because with him, I'm happy with him, relationshipically, but... Yeah, but that means there's always going to be a gap that you're missing. 69:57 So what you're saying is you're going to be okay with missing the gap that he used to fulfill for whatever I am feeling. Right? Exactly. I would rather do that. You're not going to say you're getting money from me and you're getting the love from him. No. You're just saying that when you move on from that to this, you're already accepting that you're not going to get what you had there. 70:19 For what you're going to get here Yes and I've always said I've always said I still say this Till today Love alone is not enough Whether you guys want to It's not enough You know what is so I truly I truly agree with that For my parents it was For my parents it was It was Love was enough Love was enough I truly agree with that but I would love a man with money Like I do say Guys no wait Like every guy that I've dated No offence guys Was broke Not was broke Wazul But I know that I can do better financially Yeah 70:49 What the fuck do you mean by that? Wait, wait, wait She's talking She's acting like She can walk through an aisle Like an aisle Go into fucking shop rights And be like I wish I could Yeah, listen Like every guy that I've Happened to love Why is Ocaño? Because you're doing it the right way. 71:08 Yes, because I'm a lover girl. So don't ever feel bad about doing it the right way. 71:12 I'm a lover girl, which is very sad. No, no, no. It's not very sad, but I'm a lover girl. And it's just so unfortunate that I happen to love guys that can't They are the biggest lovers and they know how to love How is it unfortunate? For lack of better words gay But like I just happen to fall in love and that really doesn't matter you know But now I'm crying to all the wrong people because I'll be telling you my friend You know I need 2k I wish I could ask him but I know No, I love him too much to actually think about the fact that he doesn't have it. 71:52 Okay, there's a difference between a guy that doesn't have it and a guy who's unwilling to make a plan. You get what I'm saying? 72:00 I think I date the... Like me, I'm a hustler, right? 72:02 So there's no way you're going to be like, yo, baby, I needed this. And I'm going to be like, yo, I don't have it. And I'm going to leave it there. There's no way I'm just leaving it there. 72:08 I date the doesn't have. But can I say this? 72:10 Yeah, I might not have it, but am I going to make a plan to get it? 72:13 Can I? I love you to the point where I don't think I want to stress you to the point where you have to go. I wanted to say that. Now you know that you only take gigs on Saturday and Sunday. Now I'm making you work on a Tuesday. Yeah. What's up? Yeah. I feel bad now. Because you're comfortable with the Tuesdays. I mean, you're comfortable with the weekends. 72:35 Guys, may I always say this, man? Listen, if as a man, right, you don't have to have the money, but you have to have the mindset for abundance. You have to have the mindset that, yo, my woman needs more. I need to get more. Or if she needs more, I need to help her be able to get more. I need to put her on to something. And guess what love does? 72:55 Guess what love does? Why do you envy them? No, I envy those girls. They're like, no, 15K for addiction. I envy that because I'm like... Fuck them girls like that. 73:05 We'll see them in 10 years. We'll see where they're at in 10 years. We'll see where you end up in 10 years. 73:11 Because you cannot speak of something that you're not used to. Let's be fair. Or you've never seen. Exactly. You know what you're talking about because there's that one guy that has spent that much. I'm sure 15K is like an outfit. He sends you money for an outfit and he sends you... You're drinking champagne for like a drink at the restaurant. So like a dress is like 12K and then he sends you petrol money. So it's like 2,000. And then not speak of food is cheap. So not speaking of what you're eating. 73:35 Food is not fucking cheap. What do you mean? Food is cheap. What are you eating? 73:42 Food is not expensive. We're not speaking of groceries. We're speaking of restaurant cheap. So I'm saying. No, nigga. No, no. 73:54 Where am I eating? Where am I eating? 73:55 Where the fuck are you eating, bro? 73:58 We're on a budget of 15k. Oh, no. 74:00 15k is too much. You're not on a budget. You're on a budget of maybe 3 to 6k. 74:05 No, no, no. So I said I envy those girls that can say with their chest that 15k for a date. So what I'm saying is maybe you wear LV. So I'm saying that 12k is your dress and then 2k is your... 74:19 No Yanda said At the date Yanda said At the date What are you eating Exactly She said caviar She said caviar And that's a starter Guys I don't know what a starter is But she might want A full portion Right She might want A full portion But she's saying On the actual night Itself I might be tiny But baby I eat Yeah. 74:43 Give me everything. 74:44 Yeah. Basically. What's your ideal date then? 74:45 Like, first time, I want to take out my sister tomorrow. 74:49 Like, tell me. This is the itinerary. 75:07 It's either pick me up or request for me. Okay, option two. Food, okay, it's already a given. Drinks, listen, I'm going to go for a cocktail. Or I'm going to go for my ciders. It's fine. But do you care what kind of... I have a date right after this show. 75:22 Oh, do you? Oh, do you? 75:23 I don't feel like changing. Two weeks, do you? Every week? Two weeks? Two weeks, Jesus! I'm so dead! 75:30 Where did he come from? 75:30 Nah, but I'll clap for that. Nah, I'll clap for that. I'll clap for that. 75:34 The breakup is not my fault, so... Yeah, yeah. 75:36 MVP, there we go. 75:37 Yeah, but what I'm saying is... 75:40 I don't want to change. Nah, nigga, don't change. 75:43 Nah, don't change. 75:43 I hope he doesn't take me anywhere fancy because I'm really not in the mood to look proper. 75:47 But Kanye, can I tell you what I do? 75:48 I like looking proper for someone that I love. You know, when you get a compliment from your man, it's like top tier. So I like looking good for someone who makes me feel good. No, but now you're going on a date. Me, a first date, I'm taking you to... Yeah, which means you should put the effort. 76:02 I'm taking you to a bar. 76:04 Thank you. 76:04 I'm thinking, too, the most down-to-earth shit because I need to see when I'm feeling mine. 76:09 You know, so I felt bad for my cap. I was feeling bad because I'm wearing a cap. No, no, no. You would be perfect for a first date. No, but you look good. I'm like, yo. I'm going. 76:16 The more, like, dog, if we can even, like, bar hop. That is my like, yo, from here, let's go somewhere else. We need to be dressed for anything because anything can happen to me. That's my perfect first encounter. 76:28 Tight dress. That is me looking good for my man type of date. I don't want to lie. I think that's unfair. I think if you are going on a date, then you're trying to see there's somebody. The same way that us as women expect the man to put in the effort with like a lot of things. The one thing that she could do is actually look good for the date. You can look good. No, she looks good. 76:49 No, no, no. And that's what I'm saying. 76:51 I'm saying that she looks good. But I'm just talking about the idea that... 76:56 I'm only going to look good for my man, which is what she's saying right now. So I'm saying go to that. I think by good, I meant a nice choice. Cocktail dress. What I'm saying is, even if you did, it's also fine. And I think because you expect this guy to give you this certain thing, the one thing that you could do is also do that. 77:16 So now, in this case, do you ask the guy prior about where you're going? 77:21 Yeah, or after, yeah, I do. And if after he tells me where we're going, it's either I can tell him I don't want to go there, or if we go there, okay, then I wear accordingly. 77:29 I think that's essential. He has to tell you where. 77:31 I'm from Jobbik. 77:32 I don't know Jobbik places. 77:33 Nigga, you can Google that shit, bro. Like, where we going? Like, let me see what's up. 77:38 Like, things are very easy right now. You can find out where we're going. 77:40 Like, I was really embarrassed of my cap, because I'm thinking, nah, you look really good. You look really good. 77:48 Your shoes Because I was looking At the car coordination Nigga You're good You're good You made me feel bad I'm like I'm on heels But you know why You're thinking like that You're thinking because You just came out Of relationships So you know how You did it for your man How important it was And you know what I appreciate About him 78:06 My ex-man, he made me feel good. You know, me and my friend were actually talking about this. You know when a guy compliments you on the things that you actually look, not really look down on, but you really like, ugh. 78:20 Yeah, like maybe I don't give a shit about my nails. 78:22 And then he's like, oh, these are nice. Yeah, you know, this is a nice bum. When I get to the gym, I want to squat because I'm like, ah. 78:29 I want to entice that compliment I'm horrible at that No, but I'm just saying You just do extra You just do extra You just do extra I mean, I like compliments So one of your love languages is words of affirmation I'm not going to lie Most of my relationships have suffered from me not clocking there 78:53 My ex, I made him suffer for not telling me that I'm pretty. Especially when I felt like I put in too much effort today and you don't notice. Why? 79:01 Because I don't need affirmation. That's why. 79:03 I don't need that. I actually need you to recognize the effort. Yes. Reassure me because I left the house thinking, okay, I'm average. And then the more he's... Yeah, why are you... 79:14 Why are you thinking you're average? That's what I'm saying. 79:16 No, because I know that I can do better. You know with my makeup, like I did my makeup myself. But imagine if I got a makeup artist. You understand? So I can do better. So my ex before this ex. 79:28 Evan, how many exes do you have? 79:30 Silly, you want to see my forehead? Nah, for real? 79:38 I'm kidding. 79:40 As a clipper, you wouldn't understand. You need to watch that. 79:43 Nah, for real. 79:45 For real. No, I'm kidding, man. Yeah, but like Pabalila said, like... 79:51 What did you say? 79:52 My sister. But I won't lie, I won't lie. I don't take shots. No, but listen, speaking about that, I think you genuinely have a beautiful smile. 80:01 I won't lie. Celis, stop. 80:03 Now you do. 80:04 She's pretty. I said she's very pretty. Zoom in. 80:07 See, now we know how to get to you. You see? Now we know. 80:15 I know, I know, I'm not the one who DM'd you, but hey, man. You guys are crazy. 80:19 He would say that my current two weeks ago, two weeks ago, two weeks ago, he would say you have a beautiful smile. And we're having such a serious conversation. You have a beautiful smile. Now that you do. And you know what I like the most, Baba Lo, is, I'm sorry, Baba Lo, this has gotten to me so like, hmm. 80:37 No, she's a lightweight and she said this in the beginning. Okay, nice, nice, nice, nice. 80:53 I missed my train of thought. Yeah, no, it's fine. Let's carry on. 80:56 It's okay, guys. Let's do the smoky bowl. If you don't want to answer one of these questions, it's very simple. 81:00 Wait, so are we really going to ignore the video that we just watched for no reason? Oh, what video did we just watch? What video did we just watch? I tried. What video did we just watch? I kind of did. What video? The boy child. The boy child. Damn, niggas, you gone. Boy child. 81:27 but you know this is the beautiful thing about podcasts you can do it how you want to do it you can yeah it's not like this is not a radio show where we have to give conclusions it's like you can see this back area it's like Nah, it's simple. Literally. 81:40 You're not going to bring up something, and I'm a viewer, and then you just give it like that. All right, let's respect Tabi. Like you can't. Let's respect. 81:46 She has something to say, obviously. 81:48 No, no, no, I'm just, listen, I do. No, you're not going to say all this and not have something to say. No, can we have something to say? You have something to say. 81:53 You don't have to explain too much. 81:54 Explain something. For sure. You gotta do what I say about it. 82:01 Say what you want to say. Say it. Say it, man. Okay. Abortion, boy child. I think it's a ridiculous, ridiculous concept. 82:09 Yeah. 82:10 Personally, I think it's a ridiculous concept. And for me, I understand why women, like, hate y'all. Personally, I do. But... 82:18 I do understand why they hate us too. 82:19 Yeah. Yeah. But I think we have... We are such a generation that puts thoughts into things, right? We're very emotional. We're very... Off topic. We're very mental. 82:28 Very cute toes, man. Oh, thank you, baby. 82:30 we're very mental about like a lot of things right which means I'd like to believe that we are gonna raise better boys and I would love to believe that we should be raising better boys but I'm going to raise better boys with this fuck a boy child shit 82:45 I don't see us raising better boys. I think through that movement, all we're going to do is make men kill themselves even more. You're going to make boys angrier. Not angrier. You're going to make them kill themselves even at a younger age. I don't know what the stats are for the age group where men kill themselves the more. But through this movement of kill a boy child, at eight years old, you're going to be hearing these things like, yo, as a boy child, shit. 83:13 As a boy child, you should be able to kind of try to find out what is going on, right? And why are women saying this? And then what can I do to make it better? Do you think we need the one child to make it better? 83:24 There's no excuse. 83:25 If there's one that I would go with, it's this one. 83:26 I would go with that. I do agree. 83:30 One child policy is like for one person. It's a difference. 83:32 Just for the national GDP, like it's necessary, guys. Like we are poor in South Africa. 83:37 With the one child policy, are you aware that we actually want boys more because you want to keep the surname going on? 83:47 No, you wouldn't want the surname going on, right? So it's so deep, right? So if you want a one child policy, it goes way deeper than... 83:58 than that. It goes to what are the most prevalent industries and what are the industries that we need more of, right? Then it goes to what gender does better in that industry. So if it's mining, if we need more mining, we're going to have to birth more men. 84:14 Because we know that Like if you look at China Like if you look at China That's how they do it right? Kids get Let's not kids But you start working Your job starts at 21 Let's say that Your job starts at 21 22 Nah your job should start at 17 nigga 84:38 You see, that's the problem. That's the fucking problem. The problem is we've been sold this thing that we need an education to go and make money, right? To make money, all you have to do is solve a problem. And unfortunately, if you have the type of parents that are also not going to teach you that or tell you that, like, hey, my son, I failed because I wasn't a businessman. I failed because of this and this. I went to school and still you can see where I'm at. I did something I did. Yeah, no, I did something that I loved and I thought going to school was going to make sure that I got into that position, right? If you don't have a parent that's willing to look in the mirror and tell you that, hey, my child, actually we're in 2026, AI is a real thing. 85:11 At 15, if you want to start a business, at 16, if you want to start a business, the things that I couldn't do at that age that I had no access to, we can do it now. 85:19 Yeah, because now access is getting... Can I not lie? Can I... Yeah, can I not lie? You know, grandma was right. Grandma was right. Grandma was right. Okay. 85:29 That is a privileged mindset. 85:31 You didn't hear what I said, right? That is a privileged mindset. You didn't hear what I said, right? 85:33 I'm talking about the mindset itself. 85:35 Because it undermines- Oh, you're not talking about the person and what they have been through. 85:39 I agree with that. Yes, it is a privileged mindset. And not many people are privy to that. 85:45 Nah, not many people are privy to that. But I say it's none of our fault. Listen, it's like- 85:53 No, what I wanted to get into is now that you're saying, Mana, the child, one child policy will not work because... No, I said it will work, but it will then lead to... 86:04 In terms of the economic issue right now. Do we need more females or do we need more males? 86:08 Okay, what I was getting to when I mentioned the age 21 and 17, okay, fine, let's keep it at 17. But now our problem or the issue that we're having now as society in 2026, and then when you're 18... Yeah, you shouldn't smoke. 86:21 You shouldn't smoke. 86:22 Why? Yeah. 86:23 She didn't know where we were at. She was like, Jenny, Jenny. I was like, nigga. I was like, really? Show me. I was like, really? You don't know where we at? 86:37 My sister. 86:39 Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yesterday, yesterday, I was telling her that I'm, like, enjoying the joys of being unemployed now. So I was telling her that yesterday, I didn't know that it was Monday. Someone said, oh, it's Monday. You know how busy it is? I was like, Monday. 86:53 That is real. 86:56 I woke up yesterday. I was also like, where am I? I was like, Jesus. Yo, I forgot. Yo, my amnesia was bad. 87:07 Guys, give me numbers. You should tell me that today is the 15th or the 29th. Don't tell me Monday. That is all the 15th. Yeah, true. 87:13 Now, you're thinking of our current situation as the economy, you know? 87:21 So now you think, okay, no, let me give birth to a girl child because what? Influencers are making it. And then now you're not thinking of 18 years ahead of time because you said 17, right? Let's say 17. Now it's mining. Now it's different. You understand? So with the boy child, you know that your legacy is guaranteed no matter the industry, no matter the career. Because you know with boys, they are open to everything. Mm-hmm. 87:44 What do you mean? 87:47 Because men can do mining. No, men can be minors and men can also be hairstylists. Exactly. But then... 87:53 But no, but then I would argue. 87:55 But it's very difficult for women to be a minor. 87:57 But then I would say this. 87:58 Can be a PA? No, but wait. I would say this. Men are PAs. 88:04 I would say this, right? If you're talking about the beauty industry, if we have to be... Every industry now. But now, let's say that now we are a panel. And we're like, guys, we're talking about the beauty industry, right? 88:17 I would argue that, yes, men can thrive in that industry. But then I would argue more that, guys, women love it. So the passion counts. The passion counts. It counts. I would rather trust... 88:32 A female beautician Because herself, she's dealing with all these things that as a woman A lot of people are doing jobs that they don't love but it's paid But we're not talking about that We're talking about if we were to say one child We're talking about the one child policy And then if we go through every industry We would have to speak about more females in this industry Yeah, mining, ah, more niggas Oh, oh, oh, the beauty industry 88:55 Okay, then can I ask this? Are we saying mining men because of, you know, the past generation? 89:02 Because honestly, we don't want our women dying down there. Honestly, me personally. I would not want you suffering down there. 89:07 You don't get to tell me if you want me suffering or not. I need to decide if I want to be suffering. But now you're not even born. My question now is... 89:15 With what we are fighting for now as feminists and everything is the ability to choose what you want to do, right? And because mining has been like a very male-dominated thing, it is very, very directed to men. So are we saying that if women decided, if it was a choice like that, that it's a one-child policy and there's a woman who would like to do mining and has the opportunity to do it, do you think they wouldn't? I don't think so. 89:39 Have you ever had a female president? 89:43 In South Africa, no. 89:44 Do female presidents want... Do women want to be presidents? Yes, they do. But are they given a position? No, they're not. 89:50 Guys, unfortunately, that's not the question. That's not the question. And you're speaking from a subjective point. I get it. I'm talking objectively. If we were as a panel and we all had to vote and say that, listen, I might have a daughter that wants to be a minor. I'm not refusing that. And if she wants to be a minor, let her be a minor. But now the conversation is... 90:11 If we were going to make a bet, we're going to make a bet on which gender is going to thrive in it. I would make a bet on the males. 90:21 If I was going to make a bet on the beauty industry, I would make a bet on the women, right? 90:27 So if the one child policy was to come, which child are you not aborting? Which gender? 90:32 I'm not aborting either because you can have a one child. You can have a one child policy. 90:36 The policy is strict. 90:38 No, the policy is never going to say you have to have a man or you have to have a woman. 90:42 No, the policy is not going to say, but what I said is if the policy was there and it's strict, I'm going to understand them choosing the male just for the legacy. Guys, guys, guys choose. 90:53 I would say, I would say legacy is not enough. Exactly. 90:55 I would say legacy is not enough. I would choose whatever is born. I would choose whatever is born. You take it. 91:02 But as a panel, if we sit as a panel, like, like, if it wasn't like mad scientists and you know how they say like there's people controlling the country or whatever it is, right? If I was a mad scientist and we were in a faction like the Illuminati, if it actually existed. You would look at current affairs. No, no, no. I wouldn't look at current affairs. It would be the question of guys. 91:21 We need to go up in mining. We need to go up in mining. Okay. We need to birth more males for the fact that we need the mining to go up. 91:31 Your math is wrong because now I will calculate in 18 years what would be 91:36 The it industry. 91:37 No, no, no. 91:41 You're hearing me wrong. Because I agree with that. But that would be a different conversation. Then we'd say, hey guys, we're moving on to the next topic of the meeting. What is going to be the most booming industry, right? I'm saying all of these are their own boxes. I'm not saying this is for it. I'm saying you've got a point. So if we were to go on to the next topic and it would be like, guys, what's going to be the most booming industry? Then we would have that discussion. That would be different. Then we'd be like, do we need more males or females for that? Women industry Then I'd be like We need more Then we need females For women For that Actually Guys Are you gay If you date a transgender? 92:16 I've always wanted to know that I swear Are you gay? 92:20 Actually No That's actually a question Yo that should hit me You know You were actually having A very heated debate The last time We were having a team building I think it was last week And this question came up What is your Oh yeah And Fiso I was arguing with Fiso I was on Fiso's side right Yeah And Fiso was telling this story where back in the days, he was in a club and he started kissing on this woman that he thought was a woman. He started feeling on her all this shit. Nah, nah, nah. Fiso's cool. Because I agree with him, right? So me being attracted to someone is not the issue. 92:53 If I feel, if I'm attracted to you and I don't know whether you're a male or female, shut up, right? But as soon as he found out... that, yo, I'm dealing with someone that was born as a nigger. Then he had all the information. At that point, which road you take, I'm going to say you gay or you straight. He chose the road of, fuck, what? Ain't no way. Ain't no way. 93:17 So what was the conclusion? So you are gay if you go for a transgender woman. If you find out. And you continue. And you continue. But then, Why the hell am I turning into a woman because I love to be a woman and because I love men only for you guys to say, no, I'm still a man. I didn't lie to us. 93:34 No, no, no. I'm not talking about the transgender woman. I'm talking about me as a heterosexual male, as a straight male. 93:41 I meet someone in the club who is... What I'm saying is I get you, but I'm just saying I've become a woman. I have a vagina. So are you saying I'm gay? Am I gay or not? Don't tell us. Am I gay or not? That's what I'm saying. I'm saying no, you're not because... 93:54 When I find out. 93:55 When you find out. I'm a woman now. 93:57 I'm a woman now. Wait, that guy had all the parts. If you're transitioning, don't tell them. He had a dick. Everything was there. Yeah, but now I have a vagina. Except he had fake boobs, but he had a dick. 94:07 But now I have a vagina. If they still have a dick. No, listen. If they still have a dick, it's a valid reason to say, you know what? No. Because you're not attracted to the dick. But what if I continue? What if I see the dick and I continue? Am I gay or not? 94:23 You are gay. You are gay. 94:24 Thank you. You gay, nigga. I'm gay. Why are you gay, bro? You are gay. You probably have seen guys where you're like, oh, no, this guy. And he's like, no, no, no. And there's no problem with being gay. 94:37 And there's no problem with being gay. And you're like, oh, no, I always thought you are. 94:41 And you're like, how? And in the same conversation, in the same conversation, the discourse that's been happening on TV, It was happening on TikTok. It was like a really big thing about women being homophobic because they don't want to date bisexual men. 94:57 What do you guys think about that? 94:58 But if you don't want to date a bisexual man, that's your preference. That's cool. That's you saying, I don't prefer this. My preference is to not date a man that also wants to date other men. 95:07 It doesn't boil down to, you do have internalized homophobia to some extent. No! No, I disagree. 95:14 That's like homophobia. 95:16 Whoa, listen. Hey, man. 95:18 I just don't want to come with my partner here and fear that he's looking at both Zile and you. Unless you fuck with that. 95:27 I just give you a way for my man. 95:35 The argument is, you put it like this, right? Because with me as a bisexual woman that I am, I could be looking at Zile and you. I could be looking at you and you. But then that's found hot, right? But then with the men, it's not. I mean, there's something that we can never fix. 95:52 And we can never fix that. 95:54 But honestly, to your point, Fabi, if you are bisexual and you don't mind dating a man who's also bisexual, that's your preference. And that's cool. If you don't mind your man looking at other men, that's honest. That's cool. Do you know what I mean? 96:08 I can understand that. Listen, I'm on your side. I'm just playing devil's advocate because I'm hearing you. Okay, I hear it. I love it. I love it. I love it. Because then the argument is, okay, cool. You liked this person this entire time. I liked you because you're a man from what I know. And then I found out that actually you like zealot. Okay, great. You like zealot. I don't want to be with you. Pause. Wait. Pause. Because the argument is this entire time I have been liking you, right? I've been liking you regardless of what changes from there. 96:40 And that is why it's boiling down to people saying, then you are homophobic. And listen, nobody's saying you shouldn't be, but they're saying you should admit that you have internalized... 96:49 Gang. Homophobia. 96:50 You know now what changes is your fears. Because now you know that you should be jealous of other females around your man. But why are you thinking if you're one of the person. 97:01 Oh yeah. The biggest argument was why am I thinking you're going to cheat on me? Because you should be worried about the cheating not the person. 97:06 I guess this is just a thing in your relationship. Like yeah. 97:10 Like why are you worried? Because yes. Shabu. You're bisexual. 97:13 Oh my girl. Imagine if you're a man with another man. Listen. You are bisexual. 97:21 Oh my God. Let me tell you. Oh my God. Let me just say this. Let me just say this. So a person being afraid of their partner or their man is attracted to other men is the same way as me saying, I don't want to be with you because you're attracted to other guys. So the gender can't change anything. 97:41 And that is the whole point. Now I think you're also kind of proving it. It's sexual preference, guys. You should be very worried about your man cheating. Doesn't matter who it is. Why are you worried about it being a man? Because you should have a problem with cheating itself. So why are you with a man? 98:01 You know what? 98:02 I thought I'm your type. You know, I thought that it's like how it goes again with like the way you look physically. It's like when you're a skinny girl, I wouldn't understand my man cheating with like a big girl. Because I thought that I'm his type. So you'd go for like me and other women. So now it's like vagina. You go for something totally different. It's like this is where I expected to put you. Like this is your category. You went too far off. You went too far off. 98:29 Sorry, who's that comedian that was having that conversation with us? Because you were at the same table, right? The shorts, more lighter guy, lights fist. What's his name? 98:41 Yeah, so he was there and he said some fucking stupid shit. 98:43 He was like, so Saviso explained the situation. That yo, I went from the club, took this person home, found out this shit. And I'm like, nigga, fuck you. You know what this comedian says? 98:57 He says, nah, nigga, that's your ego. Nigga, it's my ego. Ego. He's like, yeah, are you not gay? That's just your ego telling you, like, you should continue. What the fuck you mean? Hey, man. It's my ego. He's like, yo, as men, your ego's killing you. I'm like, nigga, it's either I'm gay or I'm straight, bro. It's not my ego. I see something I don't like. Fuck all that shit. It's my ego. Guys, can we get to our questions real quick? 99:21 Yeah, I need a different one because I think Bongani is the guy that, the other one, right? 99:25 Yeah, it's yours. It's yours towards Bongani. Okay, yeah, yeah. 99:28 Switch out. Switch out. Where's the boat? 99:30 Yeah. Yeah, let's probably choose. Who's going to go first? 99:34 I'll go first. Again, if you don't want to answer the question, you take a shot. It's very simple. Are we in agreement? Okay. Especially, I'm looking at you. 99:42 Yeah, because I don't want to take a shot. I'm looking at you. 99:45 Question. What is the one thing that your ex did during those good times that made you realize it was never going to last? 99:53 Yo, okay. I'm going to take a shot anyway. 99:58 But I think when she threw like a pair of scissors at me, I knew like, yo, it's chai. Because I don't allow none of that shit. When you're throwing something at me, even like when you bang the door too hard, I will leave you. 100:13 What about a tissue? 100:13 You guys are not playing a game. 100:15 What do you mean? 100:17 I was like, No, I'm not emotional. I'm not emotional. I'm actually very stoic. You'll never get any reaction out of me. You know, and I appreciate Nadia. Nadia is one of my best friends. You know, she said something to me one day, maybe like three years ago. She said, you know what? I worry about you. 100:39 I feel like if anyone would take their life, you're one of them. Why? Because you always show up the same every single time. I've never seen you emotional. when you lost your mom, when you... I've never seen you different. Your mom passed? Yeah, a couple years ago. 100:55 And you're speaking of her as if she's, like, a call away. 100:58 But it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, she said, and I was like, yo, actually... 101:04 true I'm not I'm not an emotional kind I'm actually I don't I don't you're never gonna bring a reaction out of me that I didn't want myself yeah I'm never gonna blame you for how I act trust me I'm not that guy I know exactly what I'm doing all the time but with when it comes to women I've just learned that yo if you have the propensity to throw something at me Bang a door. All this shit. I know it's only going to get worse. 101:30 Yeah. 101:30 I know it's only going to get worse. 101:32 Take your shot. Take your shot. Okay, but question. Let's say I threw a tissue. 101:38 A tissue because I'm not a violent person. She didn't throw it at me. She didn't throw it at me. No, no. I'm not a violent person, but I want to be expressive. 101:46 She purposely threw it there. And I was like... 101:49 So that was her trying to say... That's enough. 101:52 That's enough. That is enough. 101:53 That's like someone punching a wall instead of you. Yeah, that's enough. 101:57 Like, yo, I can see where this is going to go eventually. 102:00 It's directed to me, but you... No, no, I'm saying that's like a nice line. I would have... I was so interested for... It's yours alone, eh? 102:10 Yeah, it's his alone. That's my question alone. What's your question? 102:13 Or what's my question? I was interested in that. Who at this table would you swipe right on if you saw them on Tinder? What is right? Right is like, oh, come shoot. I wanted to ask that. I saw right. Right is yes. 102:26 Left is no. Okay, never been on these apps ever in my life. I don't know. I've never been on dating apps ever in my life. 102:32 Same. That's why I wanted to know. Because I read this and I'm like, is right rejection or right? No, right is accept and then left is. What was the question again? Well, we could literally just say right now. 102:42 Right is right. Yeah, be honest. Be honest. 102:45 Only her? 102:47 Yeah. You can have multiple. 102:48 Me. Me. 102:49 You can have multiple. 102:52 I'm looking at everybody in the studio. That's a safe answer. That is a safe answer. 102:59 The studio is broader. 103:02 You know, I don't like this because I feel like that's such a safe answer. But I'm going to give it to you. 103:06 I'm going to give it to you. It's a safe answer. 103:08 You're going to go on a date. No, she said baby only. You're going to go on a date after this. I get it. Be safe. You know what I'm saying? You don't want this nigga watching this. Who said my date is a nigga? Damn, I paid for this girl's food after this shit, dog. 103:19 Who said my date is a nigga? Are you bi? No, I'm kidding. It's a guy. 103:22 Okay. 103:23 So then why would Bobby... If you're not bi, then why would Bobby... It's a safe answer. You're right. 103:27 Yeah, it is a safe answer. Are we playing safe? Or are we... Nah, I... Be pretty, I'm not playing safe. 103:32 No, guys, no, no. 103:33 I don't do that. 103:34 You don't do what? 103:35 Nah, nah. 103:35 Speak of... 103:37 But then that's... Okay, wait. That just says you find someone attractive, not that you're attracted to him. 103:41 Can you ask me the question? Let me ask you. Ask me the question. Please, ask me the question. Who would I swipe right on? Both of your asses. 103:51 All I'm saying is, all I'm saying is, play the game. Play the game because they're not saying... Ask me. Ask me. 103:57 What about you? 103:57 No, no, no. Zakaiya and retains caps. 103:59 Okay. 104:04 I did want to pee, but I don't want to leave. 104:08 I might miss something. 104:09 Okay, Poppy's question is made, so please stay for it. 104:12 Okay. 104:13 I don't want to leave. It says, what is one heart take that you're willing to defend no matter what? 104:20 I'm telling you to land it on you. Don't get cancelled. Don't get cancelled. This is that one. 104:24 Listen, I say this every single time. My one heart take is, you shouldn't give a shit about who your ex is dating, even if it's your friend. 104:36 I've dated my friend's ex. 104:41 I'm just asking. 104:42 Do you continue being a friend to that friend? 104:44 That is something that people can agree on. 104:47 This makes me really uncomfortable so I don't want to be there and then you guys have the conversation. So what I'm saying is that doesn't take away what it feels like. If you're my ex and then you guys actually really had some connection somehow. And then you guys said, you're not going to date when I'm there. 105:02 Bye. You know they once wanted to go at me in the comment section when Laundi London said, I don't care who my ex dates, even if it's my friend. Because you saw what he put me through. And then you still felt like, so that's what I'm saying. 105:17 As a friend, you, Babalo, please don't have a problem when I date your ex. No, I won't. Like that. Like that. Like that. Can I say this? Can I say this? You are not his type. Say it. 105:34 You know, when you said that he doesn't do one, two, three, I'm like, I don't mind that. I don't mind if he doesn't care. And you're like, I want a guy that cooks. I don't mind. You say to me that I want a guy that has a car. And I'm like, I don't mind a guy that has a car. You understand? It differs like that. So don't never let your friend stop you from getting the love of your life. 105:54 And also, guys, this is an emotional thing. I agree with that. 105:58 This is all emotions Exactly Like this is But love of your life But what I'm saying is Not just to fuck Nah that's crazy 106:07 What I'm saying is, guys, this is like feelings things. You do not control who you fall for, right? At all. On that level, I agree. So let's just say this. Let me make an example. Say you guys were to have a, I don't know how you do your team buildings, but if you are all sitting together, right? And then I'm part of it and then I'm dating you, Zile. I don't know why I've been dating Zile this whole time. Say I'm dating you too. 106:28 Wow, me neither. 106:30 Okay, so say I'm dating you, right? 106:33 But we are always in the same... No, I'm changing it. 106:37 I'm moving it. 106:50 Okay, so I've been dating you this entire time, right? And then going forward, we break up, but we are still in the same group. And then it still happens that you and Yanda, and I'm friends with Yanda. are still in the same spaces literally all the time. You guys get to know each other. You guys know different things about each other because I could never know what you tell her that you didn't tell me. How you are with her that you weren't with me. 107:16 That's why I know all my boys' girlfriends. I don't care what your name is, how funny you are. We never just one-on-one talking. As a nigga, I am going to ignore your woman. 107:28 So you're going to ignore me as your colleague right now? 107:31 Sorry? As your colleague, you're ignoring me because I'm dating Zile. 107:35 No, if you're my colleague, I'm ignoring your boyfriend, nigga. I'm talking about if you're my friend. If Zile is my nigga, we chill every weekend. We go to the club together. Dog, you're going to introduce me to many women over the span of our relationship. I'm ignoring every single one of those women. I don't have your woman's number. I don't give a shit. I'll meet your woman when I meet you. And that's where it ends. 107:57 All I'm saying is What's your question? 108:05 Let's wrap this up. This gets to me a lot. What she was saying. Because I've seen with my friends. So with my friends, it's different. I want to say it to you. So with my friends. 108:16 No, Mohaw, we're going to two hours today, please. Please, dog. Continue, dog. Continue, dog. Yeah, no, no, no. We met Mac G outside. Mac G just told you, let them smoke. 108:24 Yeah, what the fuck? He just said, let them smoke, nigga. So my friends, you tell, when you call them, I'm like, yo, Jace, what are you? And I'm like, I'm coming with my woman. 108:36 They're different people. Bro, I've seen one of my friends greeting my woman, like, Yeah, no, that's what I'm like. 108:44 And you come. Sure, that's it. Or we're in a different world where you're with other people and stuff like that. 108:51 Because they know. Like, you get my point? Facts. 108:55 As a man. As a brood. I don't give a shit. 108:57 They will never even look at your hand like... You see how I'm looking at you? You shouldn't. 109:02 Never. You shouldn't. No, but that's the thing. What makes you think that they were looking at me like that to begin with? 109:06 Because now you guys are together. 109:10 Yes. So it means that when I introduce you to my girl... you thought that, oh damn, this is my type at some point in time. It might not be my time right now. 109:19 So my point is then, because you don't date them, say example, your friend, which is you guys, and I was your girl, and then after we break up, he doesn't date me. He still finds me attractive. 109:28 He still likes me. 109:29 It doesn't matter. Can I say something? 109:32 You're in a relationship. You're in a relationship. 109:35 Why are you worried about what the other person... I'm not worried. 109:38 I'm not worried. So I'm talking about principals, right? And principals are something that you don't have to worry about because that's who you are. Principals are in high school. 109:45 You know what I wanted to say? 109:48 There was a time I told my... 109:51 Wait, what? 109:53 Principles apply until there's emotions involved. 109:58 Okay, morality. Morality, until you die, you stand on certain shit. So I'm saying these are one of the things that I just stand on. When my nigga introduces me to his girl, dog, I don't actually care. I don't care. I need to block it out. 110:14 I once said this to my guy two weeks ago. I never remember what I've said to the past guys. Big forehead. 110:28 Why is a boy in such a thing in this conversation? I don't know. I don't know. I'm kidding. 110:36 What happened? I just want to see if you guys are still wakar, man. You still remember the whole episode. Yeah, I still want to see if you guys are not. I'm not catching you sleeping. Zila said he might sleep when he drinks. So I just wanted to see you. I'm doing it for him. Yeah. 110:54 So I've once said, with a girl, I'm going to speak to the camera. With a girl, I'm not saying this has ever happened with me, but I am... That is so real. I've never dated nobody's ex. I am like, I have dated people's exes and it's okay because it never ruined the relationship. You have dated your friend's exes? Yes. Yo, yo. No, no, no. Listen, no. Not exes as in they had like a full-blown relationship, quarter-to-marriage type of relationship, you know? Yeah, it was like, I've dated him a week after they met. 111:26 So theirs were a week long and I was like, when I met them... 111:31 It also goes to, it also actually goes to, say example, you and I are friends and you're crushing on that somebody. doesn't mean they're now all of a sudden off limits. It's crazy, it's stupid. Like we came here, it's stupid. 111:43 No, Zile. We got here together, me and Babalu, now she's like, ooh, I've always liked Zile. There's Zile, there's Zile. And Zile would get here, and then you like me, Zile. 111:52 Babalu can step back, dog. 111:54 Honestly, you were never mine. 111:55 What did you guys have? So if Pawalo comes now... She's like you for three days. No, no, not three days. She's been liking me. So all I'm trying to say is like... 112:03 But there's nothing... Did you like her back? 112:05 I didn't know her. She's been pursuing you. No, let's say... Let's say we've been here rehearsing. 112:09 Let's say we've been here rehearsing this for a week and we've known each other for a week long. 112:15 And she liked you for that week. You didn't know. Now you know I'm telling you because she's liked you this whole time. Are you going to now look at me and be like, no, I actually don't like her. I'm going to go towards who likes me more. No, you're going to go towards who you like. And you know what? 112:27 That's a negative conversation as well. You know how they're always like, okay, so this girl came to me and then they said they like me and I like their friend. And you guys go for the friend. Because a crush means fucking nothing until you actually act on it. And then I will also add on with the previous point about dating exes. If there's an ex that I would never date, like my friend's ex is the one that I know. It was like a serious thing. Yeah, but I see it. It was deep like that. 112:51 Okay, now you're getting into the specificity of it. And I agree. Yes. 112:59 It depends also gaging. Duration matters. Yeah, it depends on the seriousness. The level of it. That I agree. But guess what? Because sometimes you just dated her before me. Yeah. Like sometimes. That's weird. With both my friends. With both my friends. It was a week long. That's it. Doug, come on. Sometimes you're in it for three months and I can see that you weren't serious because you were also fucking other women while you were with her. Well, you were also fucking other women. I can see that it was not serious. No, but I wasn't fucking with her at this time. But I could see from the things that you're telling me that you also didn't take her seriously. So then four months passes that I start dating and then you want to hate on me for taking it seriously when you didn't. 113:33 You do that to your boy. It was never serious. Anyway, what's the fucking question? What's the question? What's the question? What's the question? Let's shut up. What's the question? Let's shut up. 113:41 Oh, your paper is big. It's upside down. 113:44 Okay. No, it's not. Is it even written? Yeah, it is. Okay, cool. 113:48 Yeah, come on. 113:50 You've said... 113:56 You're an inspiring actor. Aspiring. Yeah, like act out your last conversation like a dramatic soapy scene or take a shot. 114:03 Yeah. My last word? 114:05 Like, dramatic, dramatic, okay. Act out your last conversation. Like, dramatic, so busy. Like, generations. Before you answer, I see you as an actor, so... Okay, but now you're putting me on the spot. You're putting me on the spot. 114:13 You're putting me on the spot. You can take a shot. Oh, do it. 114:16 It's your option. But I see that. Mine is boring. Can I take another one? I see you crying. No, no, no. Yeah, then she can take it. Oh, damn. You're putting me on the spot. 114:20 You can take a shot if you want to do that. Oh, do it. It's your option. 114:23 But I see that. 114:25 Mine is boring. Can I take another one? 114:26 I see you crying. 114:27 No, no, no. 114:28 What do I do? Yeah, then she can take it on scene. Oh, damn. 114:30 You can take a shot if you want to do that. But I see that. Come on now, come on, come on. Hold on, don't worry about that. 114:35 He's going to ask another one. He's going to ask another one. 114:37 He's still very soft. And I think the softness, I saw it from the show that you had. Pavi's not soft. Pavi's not soft. She ain't soft. 114:47 Pavi's not soft. 114:48 She's not soft. 114:49 I am. Go ahead, go ahead. Okay, on this podcast, right now, who's one person you believe would scare me out of money and why? 114:57 This is what I want. Zile for sure. 114:59 Zile. I'm going... 115:02 No offense to myself. 115:08 But you would. I don't know. I can see how I would. There's a record label from America. 115:22 Yo, you can sell half your catalog. 115:24 We are going to start with your weed company. We put it on. 115:29 Yeah. 115:35 Yeah. 115:36 He knows it. 115:38 Guys, I just want to say, I think this was a really dope episode of All The Smoke. Having all podcasters. I think this might be the first time that we do it. I mean, Moonchild is a podcaster, but we know her more for being an artist. Yeah. Yanda was a podcaster. BU was a podcaster. But I feel like this is like, yo, everyone has a podcast right now. 115:58 It's because it's different podcasts. 116:00 Yeah, right? Yeah. You still need to change your set though. Like that is horrible. 116:05 Don't lie to me. 116:06 Imagine Nakia sitting at that shit. 116:09 Nakuita. 116:10 Nakuita wearing 8K weaves bed. 116:12 Nakuita is at Decoford right now. She's at Decoford. Relax. She's at Decoford. She's at Decoford. She's changing. She's trying to change. 116:23 We'll see you next week. Same time, same place. All the smoke, baby. Thank you guys for coming so much. 116:29 Thank you for having us. Today I need to be sale. Literally joint. 116:35 You know what that's like